librisrouge Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 (edited) So, using Solar Auxilia models has been fun but I find that I'm increasingly becoming more and more mechanized this edition so it looks like my SA medusas want to take the field. However, the medusa is generally considered ineffective in line with the more popular basilisk, and I understand why. The odds of getting more shots are clearly worth the loss of strength and AP. However, I find that I'm increasingly using the Catachan trait for my mechanized force and it seems to me that this would offset this advantage considerably. Lets break it down: Armaggedon Basilisk vs. Armaggedon Medusa Points: EVEN (Their both the same) Strength: Medusa (S10 vs. S9) AP: Medusa (-3 vs. -2) Range: Basilisk (A LOT vs. 36") # of Shots: Basilisk (2d6, pick t he highest, reroll the lowest vs. 1d6, rerollable) Damage: EVEN (d3) Other special rules: None What do you guys think? Clearly, I'll be giving magnets a whirl but I'm wondering about battlefield effectiveness. Edited December 6, 2017 by librisrouge Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/342050-which-is-the-better-boom/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 The Earthshaker Cannon is -3, so it's a draw there as well. Personally I love my Medusa but it doesn't feel like it's worth it versus a Basilisk. librisrouge and Halfpint100 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/342050-which-is-the-better-boom/#findComment-4952995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tirak Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 T7 3+ is my normal target, though in this case it doesn't matter even at t8. The average of 2d6 take the highest is 4.45. BS4+ is 2.225. 3+ means 1.48 wound. AP-3 strips the save down to 6+ which is 1.236, and average damage in a D3 is 2 for 2.47 wounds per turn from a stock basilisk. Medusas shoots d6 shots, which is an average of 3.5. We follow the same logic chain and get an average of 1.94 wounds per turn. Now this changes at T5 and T9. At t5 3+ (Plauge marine) the basilisk puts out the same 2.47 wounds. The medusa however now strikes at 2.43. A step down to T4 3+ the medusas is still churning out 2.43 but now the basilisk jumps to 3.09 wounds. On the other end of the spectrum at T9, which I don't know of any units with T9, the basilisk drops to 1.85 compared to 1.94. Long story short, the basilisk outguns the medusas quite handily. 4.45 shots average vs 3.5 is a big deal. BIG ROB OF DEATH and librisrouge 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/342050-which-is-the-better-boom/#findComment-4953008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
librisrouge Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 The Earthshaker Cannon is -3, so it's a draw there as well. Personally I love my Medusa but it doesn't feel like it's worth it versus a Basilisk.I keep forgetting this! I suppose that gives the basilisk a handed win. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/342050-which-is-the-better-boom/#findComment-4953061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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