30K Death Guard 2500 & 3000 pnts

[Vectorum]

Hi! I'm looking to get into HH and want a 2500 pnts base list, so I can start making a nice ForgeWorld purchase This list will scale to 3000 pnts to include Mortarion eventually. The Praetor wil ride with the Deathshroud in the Spartan.

 

 

 

++ Armies of Dark Compliance (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2497pts] ++

 

+ HQ +

 

Praetor, Legion [337pts]: Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Chem-munitions, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, On Foot, Praetor/Cent, Volkite Charger

. Master of the Legion

. . Deathshroud Terminator Squad: 4x Deathshroud Terminators

. Power Weapon: Power Sword

 

+ Elites +

 

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [380pts]

. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Chem-munitions, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon

. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Chem-munitions, Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon

 

Quad Launcher Support Battery, Legion [180pts]: 3x Rapier, Legion

 

+ Troops +

 

Tactical Squad, Legion [220pts]: Chem-munitions, 15x Tactical Space Marines, Legion

. Additional Wargear: Bolters, Nuncio-vox, Vexilla, Legion

. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Power Fist

 

Tactical Squad, Legion [220pts]: Chem-munitions, 15x Tactical Space Marines, Legion

. Additional Wargear: Bolters, Nuncio-vox, Vexilla, Legion

. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Power Fist

 

Terminator Squad, Legion [175pts]: Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Chem-munitions

. Terminator Sergeant, Legion: Combi-Bolter

. . Power Weapon: Power Sword

. Terminators, Legion: Combi-Bolter

. . Power Weapon: Power Sword

. Terminators, Legion: Combi-Bolter

. . Power Weapon: Power Sword

. Terminators, Legion: Combi-Bolter

. . Power Weapon: Power Sword

. Terminators, Legion: Combi-Bolter

. . Power Weapon: Power Sword

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Heavy Support Squad, Legion Multi-melta [225pts]: Chem-munitions, Multi-melta, 4x Space Marines, Legion

. Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion: Chem-munitions, Extra Armour

. Sergeant, Legion: Exchange heavy weapon for a Nuncio-vox and Chainsword/Combat Blade

 

Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [290pts]

. Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Chem-munitions, Grav-flux Bombard, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Leviathan Siege Claw

 

Sicaran Battle Tank [165pts]: Accelerator Autocannon

 

Spartan Assault Tank, Legion [305pts]: Chem-munitions, Quad Lascannon Sponsons, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter

 

+ Allegiance +

 

and Allegiance, Legion:   XIV: Death Guard, Army of Dark Compliance, Traitor

 

Rite of War: Pride of the Legion

 

++ Total: [2497pts] ++

 

 

My 3000 list will include Mortarion and looks like this:

 

 

 

 

++ Armies of Dark Compliance (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2997pts] ++

 

+ HQ +

 

Praetor, Legion [202pts]: Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Chem-munitions, Digital Lasers, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, On Foot, Paragon Blade, Praetor/Cent, Rad Grenades, Volkite Charger

 

+ Elites +

 

Apothecarion Detachment [90pts]

. Apothecary, Legion: Chainsword/Combat Blade, Power Armor

. Apothecary, Legion: Chainsword/Combat Blade, Power Armor

 

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [190pts]

. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon

 

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [190pts]

. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon

 

Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion [180pts]

. Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion: Quad Mortar ('Thud Gun')

. Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion: Quad Mortar ('Thud Gun')

. Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion: Quad Mortar ('Thud Gun')

 

+ Troops +

 

Heavy Support Squad, Legion Multi-melta [225pts]: Chem-munitions, Multi-melta, 4x Space Marines, Legion, Support Squad

. Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion: Chem-munitions, Extra Armour

 

Tactical Squad, Legion [225pts]: Chem-munitions, 15x Tactical Space Marines, Legion

. Additional Wargear: Bolters, Nuncio-vox, Vexilla, Legion

. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Melta Bombs, Power Fist

 

Tactical Squad, Legion [225pts]: Chem-munitions, 15x Tactical Space Marines, Legion

. Additional Wargear: Bolters, Nuncio-vox, Vexilla, Legion

. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Melta Bombs, Power Fist

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [290pts]

. Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Grav-flux Bombard, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Leviathan Siege Claw

 

Sicaran Battle Tank [205pts]: Accelerator Autocannon, Lascannon Sponsons

 

Spartan Assault Tank, Legion [380pts]: Armoured Ceramite, Chem-munitions, Flare Shield, Heavy Bolter, Quad Lascannon Sponsons, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter

 

+ Lords of War +

 

Mortarion the Reaper [595pts]

. Master of the Legion

. . Deathshroud Terminator Squad: 4x Deathshroud Terminators

 

+ Allegiance +

 

and Allegiance, Legion:   XIV: Death Guard, Traitor

 

Rite of War: The Reaping

 

++ Total: [2997pts] ++

 

Any feedback before I take the plunge?

 

 

 

Edited December 7, 2017 by Vectorum

[strawberry fist]

Have you thought about using a siege Breaker Consul to open up the use of phosphex on the quad guns?

 

I might be tempted to run 2 contemptor Morris with dual kheres instead of those two contemptors as they can gain skyfire if they stay still.

 

Please bear in mind I'm also new to 30k and this is the list I'm thinking of running but need advice.

 

Typhon - the reaping (rate of war)

Bodyguard - deathshroud X4 in proteus (40k variant)

 

Siege Breaker Consul - cataphractti armour combi flamer, thunder hammer

 

Tactical squad - rhino, vexila, nuncio vox

 

Tactical squad - rhino, vexila, nuncio voX

 

Heavy weapons squad X5 missile

 

Heavy weapons squad X5 missile

 

Contemptor Morris - X2 kheres

 

Quad motar - phosphex

 

Scorpius

 

Sicaran - las sponsons

[Caillum]

Vectorum you have 4 Heavy Support choices in your first list (and you can only take 3 in Age of Darkness Force Org). Before you ask, you cannot run a Rite of War in alternate Force Orgs (like Onslaught, which does have 4 Heavy Support slots). Easy fix though, as the Terminators can take the Spartan as a Dedicated Transport.

 

Speaking of Terminators... “Pride of the Legion” requires you to fill your Compulsory Troops choices with Veterans or Terminators - you have only 1 squad of these.

 

If you want to take a Leviathan in “The Reaping”, give it the torso-mounted twin-linked volkite calivers so it can do some shooting while it slowly crosses the board.

 

Finally, why multi-meltas in the Heavy Support Squad? Not easy to use without penalty, and there’s a lot of Armoured Ceramite in 30k...

[Vectorum]

Vectorum you have 4 Heavy Support choices in your first list (and you can only take 3 in Age of Darkness Force Org). Before you ask, you cannot run a Rite of War in alternate Force Orgs (like Onslaught, which does have 4 Heavy Support slots). Easy fix though, as the Terminators can take the Spartan as a Dedicated Transport.

 

Speaking of Terminators... “Pride of the Legion” requires you to fill your Compulsory Troops choices with Veterans or Terminators - you have only 1 squad of these.

 

If you want to take a Leviathan in “The Reaping”, give it the torso-mounted twin-linked volkite calivers so it can do some shooting while it slowly crosses the board.

 

Finally, why multi-meltas in the Heavy Support Squad? Not easy to use without penalty, and there’s a lot of Armoured Ceramite in 30k...

 

 

Thnx for the feedback! I'm new to 30k, so just trying stuff out. Thought multi-melta's would be good for anti-tank, but I see missile launchers are recommended a lot. Or would you go with something else? Changed the list a bit(choose The Reaping to move the HS squad to a troop choice, the list is legal now right?) based on your feedback.

 

 

++ Armies of Dark Compliance (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2497pts] ++

 

+ HQ +

 

Praetor, Legion [322pts]: Cataphractii Terminator Armour, On Foot, Praetor/Cent, Volkite Charger

. Master of the Legion

. . Deathshroud Terminator Squad: 4x Deathshroud Terminators

. Power Weapon: Power Sword

 

+ Elites +

 

Apothecarion Detachment [90pts]

. Apothecary, Legion: Chainsword/Combat Blade, Power Armor

. Apothecary, Legion: Chainsword/Combat Blade, Power Armor

 

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [380pts]

. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon

. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, Kheres Pattern Assault Cannon

 

Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion [180pts]

. Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion: Quad Mortar ('Thud Gun')

. Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion: Quad Mortar ('Thud Gun')

. Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion: Quad Mortar ('Thud Gun')

 

+ Troops +

 

Heavy Support Squad, Legion Missile Launcher [260pts]: Missile Launcher, 9x Space Marines, Legion, Support Squad

 

Tactical Squad, Legion [195pts]: 14x Tactical Space Marines, Legion

. Additional Wargear: Bolters, Nuncio-vox, Vexilla, Legion

. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Bolter

 

Tactical Squad, Legion [195pts]: 14x Tactical Space Marines, Legion

. Additional Wargear: Bolters, Nuncio-vox, Vexilla, Legion

. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Bolter

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [300pts]

. Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Grav-flux Bombard, Leviathan Siege Claw, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver, Twin-linked Volkite Caliver

 

Sicaran Battle Tank [205pts]: Accelerator Autocannon, Lascannon Sponsons

 

Spartan Assault Tank, Legion [370pts]: Armoured Ceramite, Flare Shield, Quad Lascannon Sponsons, Twin-linked Heavy Bolter

 

+ Allegiance +

 

and Allegiance, Legion:   XIV: Death Guard, Army of Dark Compliance, Traitor

 

Rite of War: The Reaping

 

++ Total: [2497pts] ++

[Caillum]

That looks better mate! Couple of suggestions for you though...

 

Your Praetor is running Cataphractii armour with a squad of Tartaros Deathshroud. Probably worth taking Tartaros armour and (discounted) iron halo on him so he doesn’t hold them up. And he definitely needs a Paragon blade - it’s one of the reasons you field Praetors!

 

Your Tacticals are pretty bare-bones. I’d give the Sergeants artificer armour at least, and consider additional combat blades for all squad members. If you get them, give the Sergeant a decent combat weapon too (Deathshroud power scythe or power fist).

 

Apothecaries love artificer armour. It keeps them alive, and they keep squads alive.

 

Heavy Support Squads are interesting - the weapon you take is very much dependant on the rest of your list:

- Heavy bolters are rarely used. I’d only take them in Dark Angels lists with their moelcular acid shells.

- Heavy flamers are free, and only worth it in Death Guard and Salamanders armies, but you rarely see them. Could be interesting with Promethium Relay Pipes.

- Krak missiles are an anti-Marine weapon in a game that excels at killing Marines (and they get no bonuses to Vehicle Damage rolls) but they do cause Instant Death on 2-wound Terminators. Frag missiles help with Militia armies. Flakk missiles are too expensive for what they do.

- For the same price, you can get autocannons, which are probably better at killing light armour (2x shots, only AP4). My personal favourite - cheap, effective and underrated.

- Lascannons are pricey, so you need to justify that expense. Best to have a Bunker to hide all those points in.

- Not keen on plasma cannons myself.

- Volkite culverins are awesome for anti-Infantry, especially if you face Militia armies. Choom will always pay dividends! :)

 

Finally, a Spartan is probably more than you need, and a Land Raider Phobos will save you points. Probably won’t be able to fit in all of the above options, but hopefully it gives you a guide.