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Ok. It's me again. I have recently added some new units to my army of Iron warriors. I would love some criticism and assistance on what to use to increase my army more. I currently can field a 3k pt army. Here is what I use in that army. I use the Pride of the Legion Rite of War so I can take Perturabo as a LoW and use a 3rd Hq, mostly to have more points.

 

LoW:

 

  The Primarch Perturabo

   -after Istvaan

 

Hq:

   

   Legion Praetor (Warsmith)

    -Master Crafted Thunder Hammer

    -Combi-bolter

    -Cataphractii Armor

    

     Command Squad w/ Rhino

       -Melta Bombs

  

  Master of Signal

   -Artificer Armor

   -Plasma Pistol

   -Power Sword

   -Melta Bombs

   -Refractor Field

  

  Siege Breaker

   -Artificer Armor

   -Thunder Hammer

   -Combi-plasma

   -Melta Bombs

   -3x Phosphex Bombs

   -Refractor Field

 

Elites: 

 

  Legion Dreadnought

   -Twin Linked Autocannon

   -Dreadnought Chainfist

     *Plasma Blaster

   -2x Hunter Killer Missiles

   -Extra Armor

   -Armored Ceramite

 

Troops:

 

  Legion Terminator Squad

   -Grenade Harness

   -Power Sword

   -Volkite Charger

   -4x Chainfist

   -Reaper Autocannon

   -3x Combi-bolter

 

  Legion Veteran Tactical Squad X2

   -2x Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Webs

    *Shrapnel Bolts

   -Artificer Armor

   -Melta Bombs

   -Nuncio Vox

   -Legion Vexilla

 

  Legion Veteran Tactical Squad

   -2x Plasma Guns

   -Plasma Pistol

   -Power Sword

   -Artificer Armor

   -Melta Bombs

   -Nuncio Vox

   -Legion Vexilla

 

Heavy Support:

  

  Artillery Tank Squadron

   -2x Medusa (Identical)

    *2x Heavy Bolter (Shrapnel Bolts), Medusa Siege Gun, Extra Armor, Hunter Killer Missile, Aux Drive, Dozer Blade

 

  Legion Predator Tank

   -Armored Ceramite

   -Extra Armor

   -Lascannon Sponsons

   -Dozer Blade

   -Aux Drive

   -Hunter Killer Missile

   -Machine Spirit

   -Predator Cannon

   -Twin Linked Bolter

 

 

I also own 2 basilisks, centurian w/ early crusade honors, and I'm considering getting a Land raider Phobos to carry my termies.

Edited by TrueRevanchist
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You have a lot of points in some situational or just plainly useless gear. For example on the Predator and Medusas you could drop extra armour, hunterkiller missile, auxiliary drive, armoured ceramite and machine spirit. Same with HQs, support characters like Siege breaker (who is he going with btw) and Master of Signal don't need that much wargear, maybe artificer and refractor field.

 

For Terminators and Veterans you should give them specialized wargear instead of everything a little bit. I assume Terms are teleporting with Perturabo combi-weapons and power fists are enough.

 

Why the Command Squad? It does nothing really and just costs points for no reason.

Thank you for responding. I don't own a lot for this army yet, so most of the stuff is to add points. The command squad and the "useless" equipment are to give more points. I figure I want to be able to play larger games. As for my vehicles, I prefer extra armor, HK missiles, and Armored Ceramite when possible, as well as Machine spirit. As I am a new 30k player, I don't know who my independent characters will go with. Do you have a suggestion?

I'd consider finding the points (possibly via dropping some vehicle upgrades, as well as the plasma pistol and maybe power sword off of the master of signal) to upgrade the command squad a little. If you are gonna use them, then for only 60 more points you can give them all combat shields and charnable sabres (with 1 powerfist), turning them in to a reasonably killy unit instead of just some expensive babysitters.

Alright, so I keep hearing that I should get rid of the command squad, so I did. I realized I can make a 2500pt list, but I don't want to make another topic.

 

 
++ The Age of Darkness (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2499pts] ++
 
+ HQ +
 
Forge Lord [167pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, On Foot, Refractor Field
. Consul
. . Forge Lord: Cyber-familiar, Nuncio-vox, Rad Grenades, Servo Arm
. Thunder Hammer: Thunder Hammer
 
Praetor, Legion [225pts]: Archaeotech Pistol, Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Melta Bombs, On Foot, Paragon Blade, Refractor Field, Servo-arm, Warsmith
 
Praetor, Legion [185pts]: Cataphractii Terminator Armour, Combi-Bolter, Digital Lasers, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, On Foot, Thunderhammer
 
+ Heavy Support +
 
Artillery Tank Squadron, Legion [350pts]
. Medusa, Legion: Extra Armour, Heavy Bolter, Hunter-killer Missile, Medusa Siege Gun
. Medusa, Legion: Extra Armour, Heavy Bolter, Hunter-killer Missile, Medusa Siege Gun
 
Iron Havoc Support Squad [210pts]: 4x Heavy Bolter, 4x Iron Havoc
. Iron Havoc Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner, Melta Bombs, Nuncio-vox and Power Weapon
 
Predator Strike Armoured Squadron, Legion [190pts]
. Predator Tank, Legion: Armoured Ceramite, Auxiliary Drive, Dozer Blade, Extra Armour, Hunter-killer Missile, Lascannon Sponsons, Machine Spirit, Predator Cannon, Twin-linked Bolter
 
+ Troops +
 
Tactical Squad, Legion [250pts]: 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion
. Additional Wargear: Additional Chainswords/Combat Blades, Bolters, Nuncio-vox, Vexilla, Legion
. Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion: Auxiliary Drive, Dozer Blade, Extra Armour, Hunter-killer Missile, Multi Melta
. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolter, Chainsword/Combat Blade
 
Terminator Squad, Legion [247pts]: Tartaros Terminator Armour
. Terminator Sergeant, Legion: Grenade Harness, Volkite Charger
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Reaper Autocannon
. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter
. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter
. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter
 
Terminator Squad, Legion [225pts]: Terminator Armour (Indomitus/Standard)
. Terminator Sergeant, Legion: Combi-Bolter
. . Power Weapon: Power Sword
. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Heavy Flamer
. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter
. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter
. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter
 
Veteran Tactical Squad, Legion [255pts]: Melta Bombs, Shrapnel Bolts, Veteran Tactics: Marksmen
. Veteran Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword/Combat Blade
. Veteran Space Marines W/ Special Weapon, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword or Combat Blade, Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web
. Veteran Space Marines W/ Special Weapon, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword or Combat Blade, Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web
. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade, Vexilla, Legion
. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade, Nuncio-vox
. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade
. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade
. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade
. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade
. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade
 
+ Allegiance +
 
and Allegiance, Legion:    IV: Iron Warriors, Traitor
 
Rite of War: Pride of the Legion
 
+ Elites +
 
Dreadnought Talon, Legion [195pts]
. Dreadnought, Legion: Armoured Ceramite, Extra Armour, 2x Hunter-killer Missile, Twin-linked Autocannon
. . Dreadnought Chainfist: Plasma Blaster
 
++ Total: [2499pts] ++
 
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Please give suggestions on things to add to make 3000.
 

++ The Age of Darkness (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2959pts] ++

 

+ HQ +

 

Forge Lord [172pts]: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Melta Bombs, On Foot, Refractor Field

. Consul

. . Forge Lord: Cyber-familiar, Nuncio-vox, Rad Grenades, Servo Arm

. Thunder Hammer: Thunder Hammer

 

Master of Signal [145pts]: Artificer Armour, Melta Bombs, On Foot, Plasma Pistol, Refractor Field

. Consul: Master of Signal

. Power Weapon: Power Sword

 

Praetor, Legion [225pts]: Archaeotech Pistol, Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Melta Bombs, On Foot, Paragon Blade, Refractor Field, Servo-arm, Warsmith

 

+ Heavy Support +

 

Artillery Tank Squadron, Legion [350pts]

. Medusa, Legion: Extra Armour, Heavy Bolter, Hunter-killer Missile, Medusa Siege Gun

. Medusa, Legion: Extra Armour, Heavy Bolter, Hunter-killer Missile, Medusa Siege Gun

 

Iron Havoc Support Squad [210pts]: 4x Heavy Bolter, 4x Iron Havoc

. Iron Havoc Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner, Melta Bombs, Nuncio-vox and Power Weapon

 

Predator Strike Armoured Squadron, Legion [190pts]

. Predator Tank, Legion: Armoured Ceramite, Auxiliary Drive, Dozer Blade, Extra Armour, Hunter-killer Missile, Lascannon Sponsons, Machine Spirit, Predator Cannon, Twin-linked Bolter

 

+ Lords of War +

 

The Primarch Perturabo [490pts]: After Istvaan

 

+ Troops +

 

Tactical Squad, Legion [255pts]: 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion

. Additional Wargear: Additional Chainswords/Combat Blades, Bolters, Nuncio-vox, Vexilla, Legion

. Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion: Auxiliary Drive, Dozer Blade, Extra Armour, Hunter-killer Missile, Multi Melta

. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolter, Chainsword/Combat Blade, Melta Bombs

 

Terminator Squad, Legion [247pts]: Tartaros Terminator Armour

. Terminator Sergeant, Legion: Grenade Harness, Volkite Charger

. . Power Weapon: Power Sword

. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Reaper Autocannon

. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter

. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter

. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter

 

Terminator Squad, Legion [225pts]: Terminator Armour (Indomitus/Standard)

. Terminator Sergeant, Legion: Combi-Bolter

. . Power Weapon: Power Sword

. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Heavy Flamer

. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter

. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter

. Terminators, Legion: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter

 

Veteran Tactical Squad, Legion [255pts]: Melta Bombs, Shrapnel Bolts, Veteran Tactics: Marksmen

. Veteran Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword/Combat Blade

. Veteran Space Marines W/ Special Weapon, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword or Combat Blade, Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web

. Veteran Space Marines W/ Special Weapon, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword or Combat Blade, Heavy Bolter and Suspensor Web

. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade, Vexilla, Legion

. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade, Nuncio-vox

. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade

. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade

. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade

. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade

. Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chainsword or Combat Blade

 

+ Allegiance +

 

and Allegiance, Legion:    IV: Iron Warriors, Traitor

 

Rite of War: Pride of the Legion

 

+ Elites +

 

Dreadnought Talon, Legion [195pts]

. Dreadnought, Legion: Armoured Ceramite, Extra Armour, 2x Hunter-killer Missile, Twin-linked Autocannon

. . Dreadnought Chainfist: Plasma Blaster

 

++ Total: [2959pts] ++

 

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This is my idea, but I'd love any help.

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