banis Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Have anyone thought about using him since the new codex?He has a stat line and saves more or less like a comptemptor dread, and he cant be singled out unless he is the closet because of character keyword.But what to do with him?He is kinda slow and can only take 1 gunarm..I have toyed with the idea of giving him artisian of war on his assault cannon. A BS2+heavy 6 dam 2 ..doenst sound all that bad.But then the captain or dread libbt wont have that trait..Anyone got other ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are Verlo Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I am a bit torn about him. His stats are decent. But as a pure beatstick the libby dread (with wings and quickening) does a better job. The chappy dread has a buff in close combat, but in order to get i melee you have to move and suffer -1 to hit with the gunarm. then again a bs 2+ twin lascannon with his durability and character status is soo good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I field him just for fun with the infernus flamer and fist with flamer or Melta. He didnt see action yet but i´m gonna bring him either via stormraven or Drop Pod (Lucius) in. I like the look on the model and the 1+ S buff comes in handy if you won´t want to buy an sanguinus priest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 He's a character, no? I think I'd be fine with letting him walk up the board then. Better not put all your eggs into one Stormraven basket and that way you could still take a DC Dread with the Stormraven instead. With all our Scouts and Deep Strike units we shouldn't have a problem to have a unit closer to the stuff that would want to shoot at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I want him most of the time dive in turn 1 to support my dc blob to give them +1s i will mostly field him in the lucius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banis Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 I want him most of the time dive in turn 1 to support my dc blob to give them +1s i will mostly field him in the lucius. Hmm that seems like a lot of point invested trying to make that 2d6 9" roll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I've long since stopped trying to pull of a turn 1 alpha strike with melee units. It's just too unreliable once the enemy has enough stuff in reserves himself or is spamming chaff to bubble wrap his stuff. However if you really want to have him on the frontline turn 1 then I agree the Lucius pod is the way to go rather than the Stormraven. Blackcadian 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeltaRange Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Admittedly he isn't as good for BA as he is for Vanilla Marines (mainly because the Libby Dread exists, the buff is redundant w/ Priests, and no Armor Indomitus) but he does have an additional attack base over the Libby and more importantly a 5++ and a 6+ FNP... I think he makes a good warlord because he's not giving away that slay the warlord point easily. Riot Earp 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 He dont need to be in cc. If he wiff he can still stand there and shot and buff units. He cant be targeted at first. I know he is not that best unit but he has it uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banis Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 He dont need to be in cc. If he wiff he can still stand there and shot and buff units. He cant be targeted at first. I know he is not that best unit but he has it uses. Buff only works when he are in CC though:/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riot Earp Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Oh his bubble works only in cc i see that makes it somehow a little bit more unatractive but nonethenless i will field him bc rule of cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 He doesn’t have a aura buff at all. Another unit must be in the same Close Combat that the Chaplain is in to recieve a buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackcadian Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I havent used him yet but I’d see him in a bit of a backfield protector role. Sniping things with his twin las and if anything wants to harass my gunline he’ll sure have something to say about that whilst my dedicated assault units can stay at the front. Kallas 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 (edited) He's great. Run him with a TL Lascannon as he's a great shot and simply advance with your slower units or guard the backfield. I've used one many times and he performs great. Very survivable and mean in a fight :-D Admittedly he's probably more advantageous to an Ultramarine army than BA, especially with the 2+ save relic. Edited December 29, 2017 by Ishagu banis and Riot Earp 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grazcruzk Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 I have been running him regularly and he does pretty well. I've tried artisan of war assault cannon and found it a tad underwhelming, but that was one match . I've done artisan of war on the twin lascannon for overkill. Really good caddie for the veritas vitae if you're going to take it. Don't forget about wisdom of the ancients, seeing as you're probably going to have some bubble wrap. banis 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordofmandulis Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 i use him, I haven't bothered trying to get him up the field yet, just have him stay back with my predator and razorback and shoot his 2+ Twin Lascannon. not being able to target him is a massive frustration to the enemy and he makes a great babysitter once I move my captain out to deal with other threats. Grazcruzk 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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