HH Rulebook FAQ 1.0

[Charlo]

NEW FAQ SPOTTED at the open day!

 

Singles knights are a LoW again.

Sniper doesn't work on Blasts or Templates

Shell shocked removed from Frag Quads

Graviton Imploders are staying as each model hit needs to roll equal to or below S to not be wounded, but they've now also got the 3D6 for armour penetration rule that the leviathan grav weapon has.

Combi Volkite and Grenades intended to be multi-use

Vehicles can fire ordnance on the move, but if vehicle fires an ordinance weapon all other weapons are snap shots

[Torvak Kyre]

Anything about the Sniper rule?

[Charlo]

Only what I said: It doesn't work on Blasts and templates.

 

You still wound on a 4+ with a Plasma gun, but just don't take plasma I guess!

[SkimaskMohawk]

Ugh they still didn't fix imploders because all the rules reference blasts.

[Charlo]

Ugh they still didn't fix imploders because all the rules reference blasts.

Honestly, I think this is it. They have been changed and that's that.

 

The 40k style Grav is gone.

[Baluc]

Ugh they still didn't fix imploders because all the rules reference blasts.

Only if you think it is Blast and not blast, its just a description of physicality not a rules reference imo. 

 

But they might just be Levi style grav-weapons now which would be interesting but also a nerf. 

[TheMalius]

Imploders?

[Gorgoff]

NEW FAQ SPOTTED at the open day!

 

Singles knights are a LoW again.

Sniper doesn't work on Blasts or Templates

Shell shocked removed from Frag Quads

Graviton Imploders are staying as each model hit needs to roll equal to or below S to not be wounded, but they've now also got the 3D6 for armour penetration rule that the leviathan grav weapon has.

Combi Volkite and Grenades intended to be multi-use

Vehicles can fire ordnance on the move, but if vehicle fires an ordinance weapon all other weapons are snap shots

Great FAQ actually.

[SkimaskMohawk]

 

Ugh they still didn't fix imploders because all the rules reference blasts.

Only if you think it is Blast and not blast, its just a description of physicality not a rules reference imo. 

 

But they might just be Levi style grav-weapons now which would be interesting but also a nerf. 

 

 

Where is blast ever used in any other context in the rules?

[Zopha]

 

Best image I've been able to get so far

 

[edit] Was given a higher res version of the original, thanks Mayegelt!

Edited January 6, 2018 by Zopha

[SkimaskMohawk]

Great, they did fix the imploders mechanically 

[depthcharge12]

Lmao, they spent all this time raving about a new book but then needed like a week 1 FAQ because they didn’t go back and fix anything :rolleyes:

 

Little salty about the sniper and blast thing but makes sense. That’ll hurt a bunch of Raven Guard lists with their Mor Deythan combi flamers of doom.

[SkimaskMohawk]

Mor deythan get rending and twinlinked, not sniper

[depthcharge12]

Mor deythan get rending and twinlinked, not sniper

Ah correct now how do they get rending flamers but we can’t have sniper blasts? Rules for thee but not for me

[Charlo]

 

Mor deythan get rending and twinlinked, not sniper

Ah correct now how do they get rending flamers but we can’t have sniper blasts? Rules for thee but not for me

Because then they get something unique and powerful, as opposed to everyone getting s no brianer choice that can be spammed.

[depthcharge12]

 

 

Mor deythan get rending and twinlinked, not sniper

Ah correct now how do they get rending flamers but we can’t have sniper blasts? Rules for thee but not for me

Because then they get something unique and powerful, as opposed to everyone getting s no brianer choice that can be spammed.

Dark angels are about the only other ones that can do it with the stasis grenades. And no brainer spam choice? Have you seen all the Raven Guard lists on this forum? :D they all spam combi flamer Mor Deythan.

 

Edit: I guess other vet choices can take Grenade launchers but I have yet to see anyone outside of DAs do it just because we have the additional stacking of the stasis rules.

Edited January 6, 2018 by depthcharge12

[SkimaskMohawk]

What he means is sniper is no brainer, and sniper combi-flamers is a pretty common trick. Remember that outside of the last red book there were no combi options for vets

[infyrana]

Thanks Charlo.

 

So everything but the Atrapos, glad I grabbed a basic IK kit !

[Fenbain]

Thanks Charlo.

 

So everything but the Atrapos, glad I grabbed a basic IK kit !

And the Porphyrion I believe.

[Gorgoff]

 

 

 

 

Ugh they still didn't fix imploders because all the rules reference blasts.

Only if you think it is Blast and not blast, its just a description of physicality not a rules reference imo.

 

But they might just be Levi style grav-weapons now which would be interesting but also a nerf.

Where is blast ever used in any other context in the rules?

40k Grav rules are gone.

Let it go, brother.

Let it goooooooo

[SkimaskMohawk]

Did you read what I wrote? Did I say "they need to keep the 40k grav so we can kill stuff" or did I say the Graviton imploders didn't work mechanically because the Graviton pulse rules references blasts in all case.

 

Oh, and then when someone showed the screenshot where they fixed it by making a new rule called Graviton implosion, did I say "wow they suck now" or did I say it was great they fixed the mechanics of how it works

 

That was rhetorical, you didn't actually read any of it.

[Withershadow]

Interesting twists, I guess I have to snap off the graviton imploder off my Macrocarid but no biggie. Gonna need to figure out what to do to bring AP2 back outside of photon thrusters.

 

The interaction between sniper and other weapons seems strange, at least they could have made the sniper rule optional, so those weapons can continue being functional. Thousand Sons vets are now undoubtedly master race.

[rendingon1+]

I don't really care about sniper stasis blasts (seriously, too expensive) but this "new" sniper rule + faq makes sniper vets quite weak. Basically they're stuck with bolters only. Dissappointing. They have lost their use for me right now because with outflank and some combi plasma/melta they were capable of dealing some decent damage. Now they're meh.

Edited January 7, 2018 by rendingon1+

[Charlo]

I don't really care about sniper stasis blasts (seriously, too expensive) but this "new" sniper rule + faq makes sniper vets quite weak. Basically they're stuck with bolters only. Dissappointing. They have lost their use for me right now because with outflank and some combi plasma/melta they were capable of dealing some decent damage. Now they're meh.

I think the word is "balanced" and not weak. Sniper Bolters are still very powerful and you get outflank included too for a very good price.

 

Let's face it, sniping people with a flame thrower was never intended.

 

When the last red book came out the new Sniper Vet rules pretty much over shadowed all legion elite units from the past few books.

 

Most groups will probably also let plasma guns work the same as they do without sniper too, as that was previously changed (though of course as within their rules rights to not!)

[rendingon1+]

I was only comparing them then and now. I think the problem lies with Legion specials (some of which are unplayable like headhunters) not with veterans. Snipers were never auto win unit, with combi weapons they were costly etc. but reasonable so I don't think it is a step in right direction. FW should instead update AoD Legions book but considering it's FW and clearly they don't know what they're doing... Witnessing quality of "new" rulebook, new SW monstrosities and general FW approach to HH at the moment  I don't have high hopes for Angelus.