Withershadow Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Revisiting an old discussion, but are we really going to assume sniper ruins plasma and combi-weapons? Against infantry it's been subject to errata and clarifications from both GW and FW, plus there is always the argument that just because you always wound on a 4+ doesn't meet you can't wound on a lower value due to the innate S of the weapon. The issue with targeting vehicles has actually always been there, has never been addressed by FW, and everyone has always ignored it and let melta and missile launchers and plasmaguns use their regular profile against vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343077-hh-rulebook-faq-10/page/2/#findComment-5004947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 So to make this clear, this only affects the imploders that the AdMech had correct? This doesn’t take away haywire from the regular grav guns? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343077-hh-rulebook-faq-10/page/2/#findComment-5004991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 No, because common sense has to have a place in the game. Plasma/melta weapons with Sniper still get their normal wound thresholds IMHO, not only on a 4+. Same deal against Vehicles. Let’s day it’s a Strength 8 krak missile shot by a Sniper - regardless of how well he threads the needle into an exhaust vent, it is still going to hit like a tonne of bricks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343077-hh-rulebook-faq-10/page/2/#findComment-5005025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 No, because common sense has to have a place in the game. Plasma/melta weapons with Sniper still get their normal wound thresholds IMHO, not only on a 4+. Same deal against Vehicles. Let’s day it’s a Strength 8 krak missile shot by a Sniper - regardless of how well he threads the needle into an exhaust vent, it is still going to hit like a tonne of bricks. Right, that's what I figured too, but internet histrionics being what they are I figured I'd address it... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343077-hh-rulebook-faq-10/page/2/#findComment-5005070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Yeah, the RAW vs RAI debate is old hat now. 30k has always been about enjoying the game, not powergaming or finding fault in the rules. Having said that, the fact that they're working on a comprehensive FAQ is very appreciated. :) Gorgoff and Zopha 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343077-hh-rulebook-faq-10/page/2/#findComment-5005101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Common sense doesn't mean making up clauses for rules. There's no ambiguity and intent can't be argued either currently. So far with their paper faq they've seemed determined to nerf the utility of sniper; back when book 1 came out you didn't even get the pseudo rend, just the wound on a 4+. Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343077-hh-rulebook-faq-10/page/2/#findComment-5005214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Check with the TO or your opponent before the match as to what rules to use :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343077-hh-rulebook-faq-10/page/2/#findComment-5005216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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