StarkRaver Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Putting aside any question or whether this is sensible (it's probably not) is it possible to get a primarch & 2 knight lancers into a 3000 point list? The plan here was to include the primarch as a lord of war in the primary (age of darkness) detachment and have the 2 knights form part of a Questoris knight detachment as I think this allies as mechanicus. Is this doable? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 25% low allowance. Can run morty in primary then knight allied attachment. Tho at 3000pt its not going to work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4980762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 In that case, only Mortarion would be a Lord of War. The allied Questoris Knights would be a HQ and Troops choice within their own detachment. infyrana 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4980780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 In that case, only Mortarion would be a Lord of War. The allied Questoris Knights would be a HQ and Troops choice within their own detachment. This. Knights aren't LoW in a Questoris Detachment, they have the "Household Rank" rule that changes their rules slightly and gives them a new battlefield role. infyrana 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4981256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Yes but can primarch chosen take allies ?? As don't think you could fit them all in to 3k otherwise Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4981594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarkRaver Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 It would be for night lords so i think they can ally with the mechanicum as fellow warriors Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4981607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 Yes but can primarch chosen take allies ?? As don't think you could fit them all in to 3k otherwise You don't need Primarchs chosen. You just run any other RoW that has a LoW slot :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4981958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLifeKing Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Agreed, Legions can't take knights as a LoW Choice. The only way to take knights alongside your legion, would be to take them as an allied detachment in which they are HQ, Troop or other FOC slot, but they are not Lord of War choice.So you can take your primarch as your Low of choice, and an allied detachment of questoris knights. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4983719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 Agreed, Legions can't take knights as a LoW Choice. The only way to take knights alongside your legion, would be to take them as an allied detachment in which they are HQ, Troop or other FOC slot, but they are not Lord of War choice. So you can take your primarch as your Low of choice, and an allied detachment of questoris knights. Legions can take a Knight as a LoW. Not the Atrapos or the Porphyrion, but the rest can be taken within a War Machine detachment. infyrana 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4983742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoLifeKing Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Agreed, Legions can't take knights as a LoW Choice. The only way to take knights alongside your legion, would be to take them as an allied detachment in which they are HQ, Troop or other FOC slot, but they are not Lord of War choice. So you can take your primarch as your Low of choice, and an allied detachment of questoris knights. Legions can take a Knight as a LoW. Not the Atrapos or the Porphyrion, but the rest can be taken within a War Machine detachment. I am fairly sure that is false information, might i ask for clarification as to where it says knights being a LoW choice for the legions? last time i checked their rules stated that knights are LoW choice for mechanicum and imperial army, but not the legions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4988090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) I belive there was some FaQ draft photo circulating the net. Seemed like beta version. I belive they also qualify for War Machine detachment, don't they? Edited January 19, 2018 by Dhar'Neth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4988110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Agreed, Legions can't take knights as a LoW Choice. The only way to take knights alongside your legion, would be to take them as an allied detachment in which they are HQ, Troop or other FOC slot, but they are not Lord of War choice. So you can take your primarch as your Low of choice, and an allied detachment of questoris knights. Legions can take a Knight as a LoW. Not the Atrapos or the Porphyrion, but the rest can be taken within a War Machine detachment. I am fairly sure that is false information, might i ask for clarification as to where it says knights being a LoW choice for the legions? last time i checked their rules stated that knights are LoW choice for mechanicum and imperial army, but not the legions. Page 9 of the most recent Age of Darkness army list book - "War Machine Detachment: 1-2 Super-heavy Vehicles of the same unit type, each with a Hull Points value of 8 or less, and each chosen either from the specific army list for the Primary Detachment, the Questoris Knights army list found in the the Crusade Imperialis army list, or the optional Super-heavy list found on page 10." So you've been able to take a Knight as a LoW within a Legion list since whenever this came out (mid-2016?). I don't believe this is applicable to the Atrapos or Porphyrion, as they state within their own rules that they can only be taken within a Mechanicum list. But the other variants are all good to go. This was briefly reversed with the new rulebook that came out this year (very very end of 2017), but the subsequent FAQ undid the change. So Knights as LoW within a Legion army via the War Machine Detachment option are still very much legal and have been for roughly a year and a half :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4988137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Just a small query to extend this: What options do I have to run the Atrapos if I run a Legion of Space Marines as my main force, allied Questoris ? In which case, are there any requirements to this beyond HQ + Troop ? (I sadly do not own the Questoris book but I do have a single unmade Knight Warden kit). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4988147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenbain Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just a small query to extend this: What options do I have to run the Atrapos if I run a Legion of Space Marines as my main force, allied Questoris ? In which case, are there any requirements to this beyond HQ + Troop ? (I sadly do not own the Questoris book but I do have a single unmade Knight Warden kit). Yeah, I'm fairly sure the only way would be to use an allied Questoris detachment. So you'd need the Atrapos and at least one other Knight. As part of a Questoris force, they also get to have Household ranks and get some nice buffs/specialties from those. infyrana 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4988150 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Atrapos is also limited in Questoris armies to 0-1 per 2000 pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4988783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Does that mean you are required to have 2000+ points, or can you still have one if you are 1-1999pts? Ie, 1k of knight models? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4988829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Does that mean you are required to have 2000+ points, or can you still have one if you are 1-1999pts? Ie, 1k of knight models? You can use one in under 2000. But you need 2001 at least to use 2. infyrana 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343262-multiple-lords-of-war/#findComment-4989185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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