Jamesb_05 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Not a massive fan of the azrael model, but I found this conversion and think it looks amazing. Can anyone help me try and identify some of the bits, gonna attempt to recreate as best I can... https://spikeybits.com/2015/06/scratch-built-azrael-master-of-the-angels.html Thanks :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 It's a scratchbuild, pure sculpting by its creator. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4982540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 ...who probably was never properly credited in the Spikey Bitz article, if Rob is keeping to his M.O. of generating hits on the back of other people's effort. shandwen 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4982558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesb_05 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Oh :cuss, that's amazing. Thanks for clearing that up :) what a piece Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4982559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VorpalPoolNoodle Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I'm pretty sure the majority of that model is pure sculpting. The little bits and bobs may be on some sprues but he stands way too straight and tall for any GW old-marine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4982571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 (edited) ...who probably was never properly credited in the Spikey Bitz article, if Rob is keeping to his M.O. of generating hits on the back of other people's effort. Edit: Never mind, I misunderstood. Edited January 14, 2018 by GreyRavenC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4982573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. Bannockburn Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 The one that's credited on the SB article? ;) I mean, I don't particularly like the guy, but when you hijack a topic to accuse someone, how about making sure that the accusation is actually just? On topic: that is a great model. I wish I had some sculpting skill to even attempt such a thing. Chaplain Raeven 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4982637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesb_05 Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 Still think I might try and re create this as best as I can using kit bashing. Reckon I'll use a grey knight force sword (replace the blade and guard) for the arms. Use guard bits to create the vox caster back pack. Really struggling to find a slim, power armoured top half and cloaked bottom half that would make him look tall like tha artwork. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4982766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 The one that's credited on the SB article? I mean, I don't particularly like the guy, but when you hijack a topic to accuse someone, how about making sure that the accusation is actually just? Hence the words "probably" and "if Rob is keeping to his M.O." Perhaps in this particular instance, the work was properly credited and used with permission (that's important, too) but why would I click on a link and generate traffic to that site solely for your sake? If you're so concerned about what's "just" feel free to educate yourself on why people say such things about him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4982942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chmur Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 To put this back on track... Since there is lots of Primaris going around and you would want your character to stand out a bit anyways, maybe try "true-scaling" just the bottom of the miniature and use regular chest? That should optically bring the effect you desire, I think. GreenStuffing a cloak around some terminator legs shouldn't be that hard and regardless, this will/should not be hasty project. Another thought that crossed my mind is maybe chopping up finecast Belial for this... From that kit you could possibly use the legs (not sure about the cloak, looking at it from the back - that might need some sanding and adjusting with GS) and chop off his sword, which again, looks quite impressive and is quite big. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4984212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJD Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 This is a Primaris Azrael conversion based on the Primaris Librarian. http://www.ironkeep.eu/portfolio/azrael-supreme-grand-master-dark-angels-conversion-platinum-level/ You would want a hooded head and different arms but the body might work for you. RayJ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4984345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakybamsen Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I think that while that model looks really beautiful, it's more of an artwork than a model engulfed in battle. The way he's holding the sword and his stance is not something you'd see on the field of battle. That's the reason I would not build Azrael in such a way, if I were to build a custom model of him (i'm ok with the current one, although it could use an update). Stoic Raptor 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4984423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesb_05 Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 I'd like him to be a bit taller, but not necessarily bigger than the other marines in my army... make his armour look more slender than regular power armour if you get me Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4984710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chmur Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 yes, that's why I suggested truescaling legs only. It will make him taller, especially considering the ratio of legs vs chest. As well, it will not make him that much taller than the rest and if you put banner on him, that will diminish the difference further, imho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4984722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helycon Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) I think that while that model looks really beautiful, it's more of an artwork than a model engulfed in battle. The way he's holding the sword and his stance is not something you'd see on the field of battle. That's the reason I would not build Azrael in such a way, if I were to build a custom model of him (i'm ok with the current one, although it could use an update).You may want to check the codex. The model is based on the artwork Azrael has on page 27 :) . It's a gorgeous model though, compliments to the artist. Edited January 16, 2018 by Helycon Othniel's Blade 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4984762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Compliments to him too, although it is too much "posing" as opposed to dynamic. I personally like the picture where he was squaring off against Khârn, even chopping off part of Khârn's plasma pistol. In the picture, he was wearing his helm which still looked awesome and looks better on him than being carried out by Snurko... ahem, a Watcher in the Dark. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4985247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakybamsen Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I think that while that model looks really beautiful, it's more of an artwork than a model engulfed in battle. The way he's holding the sword and his stance is not something you'd see on the field of battle. That's the reason I would not build Azrael in such a way, if I were to build a custom model of him (i'm ok with the current one, although it could use an update).You may want to check the codex. The model is based on the artwork Azrael has on page 27 . It's a gorgeous model though, compliments to the artist. I've seen the picture a couple of times, I know it's there and that the guy who created this model built after that picture. And he did do a damn good job. Still doesn't change the fact (which is also in the picture) that it's far removed from battle, which is why I wrote what I wrote. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343332-azrael-conversion-help/#findComment-4985264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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