Khalan Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 If I take a unit of say Blood letters or horrors as a troop choice in a CSM list as part of a CSM detachment, can I use all the normal daemon strats on them provided I also have a Daemon Detachment? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343397-question-about-csm-daemon-troops/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
radionausea Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yes. The death guard FAQ clarified that Commissar K. 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343397-question-about-csm-daemon-troops/#findComment-4984123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar K. Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yeah, keep in mind though using Daemon Troops in CSM Detachments prefents you from using CSM Stratagems unless you have another CSM Detachment. So usually youll like your Daemons with Daemons and CSM with CSM. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343397-question-about-csm-daemon-troops/#findComment-4984138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yeah if you take Daemon units as part of your CSM detachment it will become a mixed Chaos detachment. So you'd need another pure CSM detachment to unlock your CSM stuff. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343397-question-about-csm-daemon-troops/#findComment-4984188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalan Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Hmm right, because even though they are troops in the CSM book, I can't use the strategems since they don't have <legion> key word right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343397-question-about-csm-daemon-troops/#findComment-4984609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Hmm right, because even though they are troops in the CSM book, I can't use the strategems since they don't have <legion> key word right? Exactly. They are no CSM unit. The only reason why they are in the book is so you don't necessarily have to buy the Daemon Codex if you want to summon some basic daemons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343397-question-about-csm-daemon-troops/#findComment-4984620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Daemon Troop units are in the CSM Codex to be Summoned. Since they are taken as reserve points and not units, they aren't part of any detachment and they do not interfere with CSM units accessing CSM detachment benefits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343397-question-about-csm-daemon-troops/#findComment-4984781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Daemon Troop units are in the CSM Codex to be Summoned. Since they are taken as reserve points and not units, they aren't part of any detachment and they do not interfere with CSM units accessing CSM detachment benefits. To emphasize, they do not interfere with accessing CSM detachment benefits IF they are summoned. They do interfere if you take them regularly in the same detachment. Res Ipsa Loquitur 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343397-question-about-csm-daemon-troops/#findComment-4984783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Res Ipsa Loquitur Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) Yeah, if you do actually Summon them. If you take them as part of a CSM Detachment your list is bad and you should feel bad. EDIT - OP, if you're already taking a CD Daemon Detachment that could buff your CSM 'Lesser' Daemons, just take them all as one CD Daemon Detachment. You lose nothing and gain a whole lot. Edited January 16, 2018 by Res Ipsa Loquitur Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343397-question-about-csm-daemon-troops/#findComment-4984787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khalan Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yeah but trying to fill out troops in a CSM detachment with cheap daemons would be $$ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343397-question-about-csm-daemon-troops/#findComment-4984999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar K. Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yeah but trying to fill out troops in a CSM detachment with cheap daemons would be $$ Yeah for competitive or matched play it's usually not the best idea. This is also why it's so odd that Word Bearers do not have a Legion Trait that circumvents this issue. While most stuff matches narrative approaches the Word Bearers in their current form do not match that at all. In any case though, my rule of tumb is that if you want to thake Daemons without a Legion Keyword you might aswell fill a Detachment with them. But luckily not all Daemons are without Legion Keyword and for CSM Cultists are a cheap option too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343397-question-about-csm-daemon-troops/#findComment-4985043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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