Dantay VI Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I have a squad of seekers, kitted out with all combi plasma I am in the process of putting a second squad together. What would be the best kit to give them? All combi plasma again,? combi meltas? or is there a better set up for the seekers? Thanks :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Combi-Plasma is probably the best but, with their new Scorpius Rounds, having Bolter-Seekers is a seemingly worthwhile endeavour now since they'll have permanent S5 Ap2 Shooting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4984992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 In a pod with meltas? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4985019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Nah, the pod melta doesn't work great in my experience. Plain melta tends to not be enough against the toughest targets, while being overkill where combi-plasma serves just as well against everything else. If going for combi-meltas, I prefer machine killer veterans for that S9. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4988126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted January 19, 2018 Author Share Posted January 19, 2018 So, it looks ike a toss up between combi plasma or standard bolters with special ammo? What about grenade launchers, and is combi volkite a thing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4988129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Although those are interesting now that they are not single-fire, I think the special rounds are better than either. You are paying good points for those, so may as well use them. After the last round of updates, I had pretty much retired Seekers except as the occasional bare squad of 10 infiltrating into a nice spot in cover. That is still a thing, but with Veterans now not being able to stack sniper on top of plasma weapons, the plasma-seeker squads are back in consideration. There is nothing quite like a volley of preferred enemy BS5 plasma fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4988185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Yeah vets blew the balance out of the water. Seekers aren't a bad unit at all, but vets beat them out for doing the same thing for less points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4988884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Stray_Idea Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I run my seekers with bolters and a vigilator attached to get a scout move and help stretch out the 24-30 range they have. I haven’t found them cost effective with combo weapons. As mentioned above given what the Scorpius round does they do ok for AP2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4989029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 6 dudes in a Claw with Combi-plasma. Works like a charme. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4989611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Seekers really shine in VisV and Tactical Strike. I usually take 3 or 4 with a bare bones vigilator and they always do well for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4990181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhar'Neth Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Quick question, Strike leader Cannot take Combi weapon, right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4990407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Quick question, Strike leader Cannot take Combi weapon, right? Probably not RAI, but RAW...yep... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4990431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Spud Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 Combi plasma is good but the scorpios bolts also slice meqs to bits too and they cost no more points. Its easy to spend too many points on them though if you give everyone a combi. I do like sticking a couple of combi meltas in in case you come across a dread or tank. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4994174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 combis are great if you are deep striking, and can more or less ensure they get too use their once per game rule with the combis on a juicy target. Against most targets, it means you hit with 97% of attacks and wound with 97% of attacks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4994501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 combis are great if you are deep striking, and can more or less ensure they get too use their once per game rule with the combis on a juicy target. Against most targets, it means you hit with 97% of attacks and wound with 97% of attacks.And most players are scared as :cuss by them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4994530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 If only weren't a fast slot that neeeded another fast slot just for a pod in terror assualt Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-4994740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Alright, so the FAQ has fixed a few things for seekers. 1) the strike leader can now take a combi-weapon due to a wording change to "Any model" 2) Combi-Weapons are now 5ppm for seekers. 3) Combi-Volkite and Combi-Grenades are confirmed intentionally multi-use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-5121365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3nn3rs Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 I’m thinking of taking 2 x 8 squads. Both in Armoured Proteus with hull mounted TLC. One squad will have all combi - plasma and its LR will have the exploratory augury web. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-5121366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 dudes in a Claw with Combi-plasma. Works like a charme. Pretty much that. Now 30 points cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-5121441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Yeah I don't see why you'd use volkite or grenades since they have specialist ammo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-5121611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Yeah I don't see why you'd use volkite or grenades since they have specialist ammo Grenade has a small niche of being Assault 1 and either S6 Ap 4 at 24" (shorter than kraken but IDing T3 and easier time wounding high toughness) which is also a decent shot to have when having to move and unable to use the Scorpius Rounds due to them being Heavy 1. Or, Frag shots which are basically a longer ranged tempest bolt (24" vs 18") but Assault 1 instead of Rapid Fire. Its main utility comes from not being One-Use. Especially if its only 5 points. Plasma is good for a one-time nuking as is Melta and Flamer whilst grenade gives you a bit more over-the-course-of-the-game utility. Combi-Volkite is blegh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-5121616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 10 Seekers w/ 10 Combi-Plasma, Artificer Armour, Melta Bomb Dedicated Transport: Land Raider Proteus w/ Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade, Pintle Mounted Multi-Melta. Full disclosure iv never run this, but I would like to try. I was thinking of putting the seekers in a Rhino instead, but a Rhino’s chances are a lot lower of surviving all that firepower that this unit is going to be taking before getting them where they need to go. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-5122197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3nn3rs Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Drop 2 and take the explatory augury web - having scout really helps target your ‘marked for death’ unit -1 to Reserves is always useful too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-5122227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 10 Seekers w/ 10 Combi-Plasma, Artificer Armour, Melta Bomb Dedicated Transport: Land Raider Proteus w/ Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade, Pintle Mounted Multi-Melta. Full disclosure iv never run this, but I would like to try. I was thinking of putting the seekers in a Rhino instead, but a Rhino’s chances are a lot lower of surviving all that firepower that this unit is going to be taking before getting them where they need to go. Put 'em in a Claw or Termite. First turn kill almost certain. And you don't need 10 of these guys. 7 would be the biggest unit I'd field. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-5122362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 10 Seekers w/ 10 Combi-Plasma, Artificer Armour, Melta Bomb Dedicated Transport: Land Raider Proteus w/ Armoured Ceramite, Dozer Blade, Pintle Mounted Multi-Melta. Full disclosure iv never run this, but I would like to try. I was thinking of putting the seekers in a Rhino instead, but a Rhino’s chances are a lot lower of surviving all that firepower that this unit is going to be taking before getting them where they need to go. Put 'em in a Claw or Termite. First turn kill almost certain. And you don't need 10 of these guys. 7 would be the biggest unit I'd field. Pods not an ideal thing since a Levi is going into one and its definitely going to be the thing coming down turn one, leaving the other pod in reserve. Termite, IMO is not a very Blood Angel thing to do so it doesn't fit my army's theme. Plus, I actually really love the look of the old school Proteus, and given the fact that its a dedicated transport to Seekers means that it fits their lore well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343432-seeker-load-outs/#findComment-5122386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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