Ithorion Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Hello Folks, as I am thinking about List creation I got to a point where I think of including two Contemptor Dreads in my list. I am pretty sure that I want to have Kheres Assault Cannons. Since I am just planing on getting two, I am struggling if it wouldn’t make more sense to equip one with dual Kheres (and make it a mortis for example) and the other one pure meele with dual claws. The advantage would be a specialized battlefield role for each dread. However, I think the meele dread really needs a Pod to shine, otherwise it might get just shot literally „on the run“. Running mixed arms would be more allround and end up cheaper pointwise when you can spare the pod. In 40k I was running a MM/Fist Dread (usually in a Pod before 8th came) and it have mixed feelings about it. When the MM eliminated the designated target it was great, if it didn’t even hit the dread was dead. So, what do you prefer - a Mixed or specialized arms loadout? And what are your weapons of choice? If this has been discussed before I will gladly read through that topic. I didn’t find one so far. Greets Itho Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I do love my dual khernes contemptor but a single and chain fist works well as can deal with most things then Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4995064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) If you give him a Kheres and a fist I recommand a Grav-Gun as well. That way the Contemptor can kill any light to medium vehicle in on volley and even Spartans has to fear it, because first he will take some hull points and then he'll destroy the tank in cc. Regarding Contemptor Mortis with double Kheres: Works like a charme against infantry and light to medium tanks as well. Even in cc against small units of marines vecause he kicks like a mule. https://www.instagram.com/p/BedlQmoA0Io/ Edited January 27, 2018 by Gorgoff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4995159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_hutcho Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 I personally believe in specialised load outs myself. My contemptor runs dual Kheres, and I intend to add another at a later date. If I was gonna run a cc one, I'd specialise it and drop pod it in. But then again, I'm more inclined to just take a leviathan with claw and drill in a pod and drop that into enemy lines. I love the gun options on the Levi, but I'm much more preferable to the CCW loadout Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4995372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I personally believe in specialised load outs myself. My contemptor runs dual Kheres, and I intend to add another at a later date. If I was gonna run a cc one, I'd specialise it and drop pod it in. But then again, I'm more inclined to just take a leviathan with claw and drill in a pod and drop that into enemy lines. I love the gun options on the Levi, but I'm much more preferable to the CCW loadoutAnd don't we forget:Every Leviathan has at least two Meltaguns and two heavy flamers to bear. Nothing to sniff at. For a couple of more points you can give him Volkites and some Phosphex. Brad_hutcho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4995549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_hutcho Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I personally believe in specialised load outs myself. My contemptor runs dual Kheres, and I intend to add another at a later date. If I was gonna run a cc one, I'd specialise it and drop pod it in. But then again, I'm more inclined to just take a leviathan with claw and drill in a pod and drop that into enemy lines. I love the gun options on the Levi, but I'm much more preferable to the CCW loadoutAnd don't we forget:Every Leviathan has at least two Meltaguns and two heavy flamers to bear. Nothing to sniff at. For a couple of more points you can give him Volkites and some Phosphex. Aww yeah. And that Phosphex discharger can be nasty. Not very World Eater'y but I'm so getting a destroyer squad, just for the Phosphex Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4996273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Spud Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I've had no luck with dual kheres to date. Dual ccw with blasma blasters on the other hand have been super successful. The levithan with grav flux bombard is brutally awesome too or dual ccw is also great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4996357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtDan Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 My Levi runs a melta Lance and drill. He just smashes things up. Usually Spartans Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4996552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Dual ccw with blasma blasters on the other hand have been super successful. Even with any hit rolls of 1 being a Glancing hit?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4996566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Spud Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Dual ccw with blasma blasters on the other hand have been super successful. Even with any hit rolls of 1 being a Glancing hit?! Yep. But its not an automatic glancing and usually he'll only do 1 or 2 rounds of shooting and the rest of the time he's charging/in combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4997049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithorion Posted January 30, 2018 Author Share Posted January 30, 2018 Thanks for that input. I really like the fact that several options seem to work well. I think I will tend to the Kheres Assault cannon + Fist with graviton gun at the contemptor Dread. That seems like a really nice setup and kind of a jack of all trades. For a leviathan I would probably use dual guns. However, I think that a leviathan really has to fit the army concept. I currently don’t plan on getting a leviathan. I am planning to include two Sicaran battle tanks since I really like the model. I think a contemptor is a better addition also since it is a lot cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4997669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
infyrana Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 If you're going for Sicaran tanks, and heck - why wouldn't you, I recommend looking at one each of the battle tank and Venator. I grabbed two battle tanks and every time I read list suggestions for anti-armour, the Venator always pops into the thread. As for the Contemptor, I highly recommend magnetising the arms. That way you can always expand your collection and start doing mortis or dual dccw variations without issues. Despite buying my first Contemptor as a dual-kheres, I added magnets and can arm my talon in numerous ways. I suspect it more likely boils down to how your meta is in terms of what you need most at any time. Brad_hutcho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4997810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 I only run my Contemptors with fist/chainfist and graviton guns. Makes them extremely lethal vs armor and elite targets. You can troll with the graviton templates by putting them centrally in a unit and then charging in a way that forces them to pile in through the dangerous terrain. Arion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-4999739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caillum Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 ^ And with Move Through Cover, the Cortus is immune its own graviton templates! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-5000250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I only run my Contemptors with fist/chainfist and graviton guns. Makes them extremely lethal vs armor and elite targets. You can troll with the graviton templates by putting them centrally in a unit and then charging in a way that forces them to pile in through the dangerous terrain. ^ And with Move Through Cover, the Cortus is immune its own graviton templates! You guys are onto something. Never though about it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-5000510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithorion Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) I will definitely magnetize the arms. I also did this for my 40k Deathwing Terminators and Dread. I also like your idea about a double graviton cortus. That’s a true beast! I can picture how this machine with hughes claws storms towards the enemy while they cannot get away due to the massive gravity. With unnatural swiftness the dread moves ignoring the enhanced gravity, catching the foes on the run! Edited February 3, 2018 by Ithorion Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-5001878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arion Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I always run mixed loadouts: 1) the points cost of a Contemptor accounts for both his WS and BS. When specializing, you lose out something you paid for. 2) versatility messes with your opponents tactics to deal with your dreads. Shooty dreads can be tarpitted. CCW dreads can be avoided. Dreads with mixed load-outs are a PITA to deal with as they always have a way of applying the hurt. Note: Chainfists are cheap and make a world of a difference. A Contemptor with chainfist, kheres assault cannon and plasma blaster craps out a lot of dice in the shooting phase and is still crazy dangerous in CC. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-5006260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I'm too scared of overheats to mess with the plasma blaster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-5006914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I have a contemptor with Plasma Cannon and Plasma Blaster. Hes right killy but he has always ended up killing himself before the end of the game. One time, he killed himself in his first shooting phase of the game. :| Brofist and Gorgoff 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-5007285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellrender Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 Since plasma is a ranged attack, would he get his 5++ against it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-5007440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I have a contemptor with Plasma Cannon and Plasma Blaster. Hes right killy but he has always ended up killing himself before the end of the game. One time, he killed himself in his first shooting phase of the game. :| But what an epic story that is. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343786-specialized-or-mixed-arms-loadout-for-dreads/#findComment-5007445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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