b1soul Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I thought people were just wishlisting...but apparently BL has confirmed that the Khan and Fulgrim will go at it on Terra. If so, this is fantastic news. I prefer this to Khan vs. Morty again. Only concern is that Fulgrim will ne a super-powerful four-bladed Daemon snake. Not sure how Khan could put up a good fight against that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpmiss Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I'd love to see a continuation of Khan vs Mortarion but I'd also love to see how this goes. Ever since he issued a challenge to Fulgrim in Scars, I guess Fulgrim has wanted to see for himself why the Kahn thinks he's better than him. I'm curious how the BL is going to handle Daemon Primarchs in the upcoming HH novels considering they and Daemon Princes are a novelty to the Imperium. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 i’m also curious. my preference would have been to hold out on ascension to daemon primarch till after the heresy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Except Angron, for sure. ;) Very curious, as well. Fulgrim and the Khan are among the top if not the top swordsmen. If Fulgrim is facing Jaghatai full demon mode (with four arms and blades), the Khan has to be even more superior to fend that off. Hopefully this will be covered by Chris. IMHO, he's the master of the Vth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I thought people were just wishlisting...but apparently BL has confirmed that the Khan and Fulgrim will go at it on Terra. Yep, I was there in the Seminar when It was announced. It surprised a lot of people, but the reaction was very positive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 As always, thanks for the confirmation m_r_parker Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaiel Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Bah! The Khan doesnt need a sword, he just needs a firm grip around your throat, ask the Greater daemon Manusha-Rakshasi. Looking forward to this epic battle though, I hope the White Scar counter attack from the gates of Terra is part of this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 White Scars will mainly be engaging DG and Morty at the Lion's Gate Spaceport... The EC are wreaking havoc in civilian living quarters, so I wonder how Khan and Fulgrim run into each other from a logistic perspective Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 That would be an awesome fight, I hope Wraight gets to handle it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Khan will obviously surf a thunderhawk to Fulgrim location. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Confirmation by BOLS as well: http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2018/02/gw-weekender-the-siege-of-terra.html Khan will be busy at the Siege...we'll see whether he's capable of going toe to toe with snakeman Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 If anyone has read Chris Wraight's newest 40k novels, there's some very heavy foreshadowing of Khan v Morty at Lion's Gate spaceport Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_F_D Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 This is most pronounced in Watcher's of the Throne in that parts of the novel were set round the Lion's gate? Are they not more a celebration of the duel as opposed to an account? I must admit Watcher's is now a happy blur in my memory given how much I've read since. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 White Scars will mainly be engaging DG and Morty at the Lion's Gate Spaceport... The EC are wreaking havoc in civilian living quarters, so I wonder how Khan and Fulgrim run into each other from a logistic perspective In existing fluff, the Scars ran riot behind the traitor lines during the Siege. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 When did Khan and Morty fight? How did it go down? Where can I read about it (without reading the actual novel)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Scars by Chris Wraight: Khan and Morty Round 1 Path of Heaven by Chris Wraight: Khan and Morty Round 2 Among the best stuff, the HH has to offer, if not THE best story arc, imho. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Yeah the whole of the Scar's arc is some of the most cohesive, and well done work in the whole catalog. Hard to top Path of Heaven really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Do they actually fight in path to heaven? All my Google searches of "Morty vs the Khan path to heaven don't provide any fight details, just everything else about the book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 No, in path of Heaven, Morty tries to corner the Khan (almost successfully) Morty has a bit of a chip on his shoulder that his prior fight with Khan didn't go so well for him (didn't go so well for Khan either) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Could be that Khan doesn't exactly have a straight-up duel with Fulgrim, but rather a series of fly-by stabbin's, courtesy of his jetbike. "Trraaaiiit*stabs*toooooooor!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSwordmaster Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Khan is really one of the coolest Primarchs in the Horus Heresy series. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 He surely is, mate. From my pov, he jumped from among the lowest ranks to the top ones, only rivaled by Russ. But that's purely my take on it. I'm a bit biased, though. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5005985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urriak Urruk Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Reading Dark Imperium, Fulgrim absolutely wupped Guilliman's , so it will be interesting to see how the Khan deals with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5006359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlisimo Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 It's not hard to set up a Fulgrim vs. Khan duel, and I'm sure they'll take advantage of any such opportunities. With so few loyalist primarchs present, they can each have more than one. I'm sure Dorn will fight Kurze early on, and maybe Perturabo after the final breach in the walls. Sanguinius's battles against Ka'Bandha and Horus are already well known, so expect a small duel at an earlier stage. That the Emperor's Children got bored of the siege and went on a rampage against civilians goes at least all the way back to Slaves to Darkness (1988). But I haven't yet found the origin of the White Scars' history at the siege. Space Marine (1st ed. Epic) states that they were present as the "Whitescars", but keep in mind that Rogue Trader presented them as a pretty conventional chapter with no sign of being related to the Mongols (though they were said to be pretty mobile and had a lot of astropaths and navigators - a precursor to them being psyker-friendly). Their Index Astartes article (early 2000s) is disappointing, saying only that, "their banners indicate they helped defend Terra and fought at the gates of the Imperial Palace." I think '90s era fluff had them harrying the Traitors' flanks and I'll keep looking for that. It's confirmed in a late Index Astartes article about the Siege of Terra - they start out that way, before the Khan decides it's not being very effective so he goes and retakes the Lion's Gate spaceport. Horus is keeping the Death Guard as his reserve, so they get the job of trying to dislodge them. That's how the Khan vs. Mortarion fight will come about. My guess is that those early harrying actions will result in a brief Khan vs. Fulgrim duel and it'll play a role in the Emperor's Children leaving the area. Just speculating. They might not do it that way because it could cheapen the irony in Horus losing a large legion to the same temptations that brought it onto his side. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5006502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Sick idea...the Khan wounds Fulgrim and then leads the enraged Primarch on a chase around Terra...into civilian populations as every Legionary slaughtering citizens is not besieging the Palace! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/344194-waitshowdown-between-warhawk-and-phoenician-confirmed/#findComment-5006513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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