Tough units to watch for? - new to 30k

[RoadRunna]

Hi all

 

New to 30k and yet to have my first game but have been watching a bit of heresy 30k BatReps on youtube to get up to speed with the various units unique to different legions. 

 

Any tips on which ones in particular are nasty and how you have best countered them?

 

Toughest I have seen are the Gal Vorbak of the Word Bearers and the Ultramarine Invictarus Suzerain's seem pretty nasty also.  Both seem to stand up to shooting pretty well and stick around awhile in HTH.  I did think that Dark Fury's were going to be really nasty but unless they are "invisible" on the approach via psychic shielding  they seem to get shot up real bad and are a bit of a glass hammer in HTH...  Kitted out Space Wolf Vets and their Terminators with FrostClaw / Chainfist combo also rank a mention from what I view

 

Happy to read some input

[m0nolith]

Custodes....All of them are brutal. The army is simply broken. The only way you can try countering them is by taking a ton of ap2 weapons, and a heavy volume of them at that.

Also try to avoid fighting them in close combat..

 

Legions:

Quad Mortars: Brutal because of their versatility and because they are great in each role, but with Phospex, they become obscene. Most people don't take these because they are considered a d-bag unit, and because its more of a narrative game, there's far less min-maxing here. There are exceptions of course.

 

Whirlwind Scorpious: Great against Power Armoured troops. The problem with this and the quads is that they usually get parked behind some piece of terran and stay there. A good way to counter them is by using units that can outflank or air units, or a unit in a drop pod (keep in mind, regular drop pods can only be taken with the Orbital Assault list, so your left with

Dreadclaws, Dread drop pods and the awesome Khyribdis.

 

Lightnings: They are here to destroy your Spartan, and they will. Best counter is some type of unit with AA. Deredeo, the new Arcus, ect ect.

 

Primarchs: Best counter, another Primarch.

[Charlo]

Any Terminator unit with a Primus Medicae: Anything short of a Lascannon won't deal much in the way of damage.

 

Plasma Support Squads: Bye to your special unit.

 

Seeker Squads: The above but on steroids against your favourite unit. Then still good against everything else with special ammo.

[Rabidbunneh]

Terminators in a flare shielded/armoured ceramite Spartan. Most people run them, having an effectively av15 vehicle immune to melta with 10 Termies inside means they are a high priority target that normally gets across the board. Down my club it normally ends up being countered by another Spartan with terminators driving into it.

[Castellan Cato]

If you face something not marines:

 

Militia/cults:

Artillery squads a very killy, while still being T7.

Ogryns will have a ton of attacks, and medium sturdy

 

Solar aux:

Veletaris storm squads. Elite humans with very powerful weapons. But still die like humans

Ogryns again, except these have a better save.

 

Mechanicum:

Everything. Mechanicum is built to kill marines and not take much damage in return.

[ProsperoStands]

Mechanicum will wreck your :cuss fast. They are by no means unbeatable but unless you have a list set up to deal with that you will have a bad day fast.