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Anyone know which Knight Houses were known affiliates/served alongside the Night Lords? Just curious since Knight Household history is kind of a blank spot for me.

House Dracula and House Wayne :P

 

Just kidding of course, I really haven’t heard of any ally crazy enough to fight alongside them. NLs seem to be the legion to press gang mortal forces into helping them, and Knight houses would be above that.

 

However, we have a resident expert on NLs on this forum (his name is AD something, maybe B? :D) who could probably help with that.

 

Though house Wayne sounds cool.

House Orhlacc. They're mentioned as having served alongside the VIIIth during the Great Crusade in Conquest. The majority of the House are loyalists, but there's definitely a lot of room for a Rogue Scion of the House or two.

 

Especially considering that they're secretly avid cannibals whose metabolisms have adapted to an all-human diet (and maybe exotic mushrooms? but that's probably a lie). I think that might be a solid angle to work from. Their color scheme meshes with the Night Lord's incredibly well, too.

 

Their icon is the manticore... "The Manticore myth was of Persian origin, where its name was "man-eater" (from early Middle Persian مارتیا mardya "man" (as in human) and خوار khowr- "to eat")" - from wikipedia. Unfortunately there are no transfers out for them and may never be, though :(

House Orhlacc. They're mentioned as having served alongside the VIIIth during the Great Crusade in Conquest. The majority of the House are loyalists, but there's definitely a lot of room for a Rogue Scion of the House or two.

 

Especially considering that they're secretly avid cannibals whose metabolisms have adapted to an all-human diet (and maybe exotic mushrooms? but that's probably a lie). I think that might be a solid angle to work from. Their color scheme meshes with the Night Lord's incredibly well, too.

 

Their icon is the manticore... "The Manticore myth was of Persian origin, where its name was "man-eater" (from early Middle Persian مارتیا mardya "man" (as in human) and خوار khowr- "to eat")" - from wikipedia. Unfortunately there are no transfers out for them and may never be, though :sad.:

Hooooly ish. This is why I knew coming here and asking would be productive. That rules. Also no worries on transfers, I'll just freehand that stuff.

House Orhlacc. They're mentioned as having served alongside the VIIIth during the Great Crusade in Conquest. The majority of the House are loyalists, but there's definitely a lot of room for a Rogue Scion of the House or two.

 

Especially considering that they're secretly avid cannibals whose metabolisms have adapted to an all-human diet (and maybe exotic mushrooms? but that's probably a lie). I think that might be a solid angle to work from. Their color scheme meshes with the Night Lord's incredibly well, too.

 

Their icon is the manticore... "The Manticore myth was of Persian origin, where its name was "man-eater" (from early Middle Persian مارتیا mardya "man" (as in human) and خوار khowr- "to eat")" - from wikipedia. Unfortunately there are no transfers out for them and may never be, though :(

Orhlacc knight world was discovered by the 1st Legion and rather DA allies, though they fought with VIII during GC they are as you mentioned loyalists. Edited by rendingon1+

Not officially, but nothing's stopping you.

They're a savage reaver House with no home world. Horus encountered a band of Ærthegn late in the Great Crusade (post-Ullanor), defeated one solo, and then went on to make most of the other warbands of the House swear loyalty to him. So they mostly fought alongside the Sons of Horus, but because of the nature of the house, they're still very fractious. There are loyalist Ærthegn scions, and others that don't take any side and raid indiscriminately.

 

Lots of cool directions to take that. There could be brutal members of the House that refused to bend knee to Horus or the Emperor and found the cynical company of the VIIIth welcoming. Or maybe Horus ordered a force of them to fight alongside the Night Lords in the Thramas Crusade... Possibly as a genuine gesture of good will, or perhaps the Warmaster wanted some of his own clandestine agents present to ensure things went according to plan? 

Legio Ulricon (or more precisely the  forge world that created them)  may have had oathbound or retained knight houses as was common practice circa M30-M31. Might be worth developing your own fluff and heraldry around a knight house from that angle. Personally, when developing my own fluff I take  inspiration from military and political history across the ages. For example maybe a fractious knight house inspired by historical wallachian boyars politicking, or something to that effect...

House Bolton as Knights would work so well.

That’s pretty much just Orlacc and Ærthegn. The game of thrones houses as knight houses is way too easy to spot when creating fluff and will come across as derivative or knock the reader out of the universe. It may be worth it for Heinrich to take a known 40k house and flesh out its pre-40k origins. It’s perfectly believable that a house from the 41st millennium might’ve been born in flayed skin and tortured prisoners.

 

House Bolton as Knights would work so well.

That’s pretty much just Orlacc and Ærthegn. The game of thrones houses as knight houses is way too easy to spot when creating fluff and will come across as derivative or knock the reader out of the universe. It may be worth it for Heinrich to take a known 40k house and flesh out its pre-40k origins. It’s perfectly believable that a house from the 41st millennium might’ve been born in flayed skin and tortured prisoners.

Fair points

 

 

House Bolton as Knights would work so well.

That’s pretty much just Orlacc and Ærthegn. The game of thrones houses as knight houses is way too easy to spot when creating fluff and will come across as derivative or knock the reader out of the universe. It may be worth it for Heinrich to take a known 40k house and flesh out its pre-40k origins. It’s perfectly believable that a house from the 41st millennium might’ve been born in flayed skin and tortured prisoners.

Fair points

 

 

 

Its just my personal preference, but I enjoy little homages to my favorites in other universes. Like a flayed man on an honor marking, or a white wolfs head on a space wolf would be my speed.

Whoa. I think I'm sold on Ærthegn. 

 

"Striking unannounced and with overwhelming force, the stark black machines of these border reavers hunted with brutal efficiency first for their own ends, and later under the authority of the Warmaster's command, placing no value on honour duels or other Knightly ideals which have been for so many centuries the cornerstone of a Knight World's Culture."

Rad. Honestly, all of the houses in Conquest are pretty great. It's hard to go wrong, but also hard to choose!

 

For what it's worth, most of the Ærthegn names are taken from Old English. There are some handy tools out there if you want to name anything that way.

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