Subtle Discord Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Giving them Renegade options doesn't seem like too far a stretch. It's how they started to offer the original Knight to the Chaos faction, even before the FW conversion kit was available, if I recall correctly. The Knight sets a good precedent but it's hard to say if it's going to continue for models such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I'm very curious if they're really gonna just add some chaos/renegade options in the codex, when it eventually comes out. Holding off on any knight purchases until then. chaos knight options aren't in a Heretic Astartes codex yet I don't think. I might be going out on a limb, but my guess is the knight codex will have both options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 If it doesn't include the option to play Chaos Knights then I guess it just means we'll getting a Dark AdMech Codex eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Well, the 'Dark Mechanicus' keywords have already cropped up. I'm drawing a blank on where it was I saw it, but don't think I imagined it. :) I really think it's not a matter of if, but when for official Dark Mechanicus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Really? I haven't seen Dark Mechanicus keywords anywhere so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat33.1 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Really? I haven't seen Dark Mechanicus keywords anywhere so far. :huh: I have, it's in the post above your own by a guy called Subtle Discord ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Har har. It is to laugh. Yeah, there was something, dammit, what the heck was it where I saw Dark Mechanicus mentioned or shown as a faction keyword. Grrr... not this is starting to hurt my brain. I was so happy to see it that I can't image that I'm just making it up in my brain and it didn't happen, but I can't for the life of me think of where it was right now. It was an image of an FW presentation slide or something like that... I think... *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Really? I haven't seen Dark Mechanicus keywords anywhere so far. I have, it's in the post above your own by a guy called Subtle Discord You mean the post I was replying to? So that basically means you haven't either. Thanks for saying basically nothing lol Kite Senet 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Ok, I found it. It's in the Forces of Chaos Index in the Chaos Hellwright entry. Not only does it make reference to Dark Mechanicus vehicles being repaired by the Master of Mechanisms ability, but there's no real reason to specifically add the Dark Mechanicus keyword unless it's going to interact with something, eventually. Or at least that's my logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Ah I see. Well considering how rushed the FW Index were I wouldn't count that as indication for anything from GW to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 It's a faction that technically exists, at least! Renegade Knights can also use that faction keyword, instead of "Questor Traitorous" (haha). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Ah I see. Well considering how rushed the FW Index were I wouldn't count that as indication for anything from GW to be honest. Fair enough. But even rushed, it's an odd addition unless it's there for some reason, even if misguided. However, it is out in the wild, as it were, and as Juggernut said it includes all the Knights too. I personally care less if it was FW or GW proper to do Dark Mechanicus; yes I want GW to do it, but if it was just something FW started with, well I'll take that if I must. Just gimme' some Dark Mechanicus pllleeeease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Okay so the announcement of the Knight Codex talks about imperial households and freeblades. Nothing about chaos and dark mech. It's also called IMPERIAL Knights. So really unlikely to have rules for chaos knights by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Chaos Knight Houses will always take a back seat to their Imperial brethren. I HIGHLY doubt you'll ever see a Traitor Questoris codex... maybe Dark Mechanicum, you never know but I highly doubt it. Give GW credit, though... they've been releasing a lot of armies and units that until now everyone would have scoffed at the idea of it. Unfortunately, even FW kinda wrote it in on the Traitor Knights. You can give them Marks of Chaos, but other than being targeted by Psyker powers it's meaningless. Gederas 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 maybe Dark Mechanicum, you never know but I highly doubt it. Give GW credit, though... they've been releasing a lot of armies and units that until now everyone would have scoffed at the idea of To be fair, GW also just announced Sea Aelves for Age of Sigmar and Plastic Sisters of Battle. All bets are off on "this is unlikely to be done" in terms of armies :lol: Panzer and DuskRaider 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Hey, it’s another opportunity to sell a codex/supplement. That alone tips the needle closer to likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I'm actually hoping that Chaos don't get spiky version of the new Knights, but instead get their own unique kits. The Kytan and Khorne Mower are a good start. Panzer 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Oh if it does happen I suspect that it will be much like before, Imperial only for quite some time, and then rules for a Renegade variant might appear at some point in the future. Lets never ignore the simple factor of generating more sales via more access, after all; I didn't even want a Knight until proper Renegade rules became available, then I purchased two with plans for more. In my opinion the same goes for Dark Mechanicus, I really think they're going to happen at some point, but I wouldn't wager a serious guess as to when. Not anytime real soon, that's for sure, but someday. I've also never liked the 'just add spikes' solution to creating units for Chaos armies and I'm really not an advocate for 'if the Imperials get it, Chaos should get a version too' line of reasoning. However, there is the very real fictional fact that Chaos is what were once loyal Marines and Humans with access to all the same wargear, but have been forced to live in essentially a reality warping hell for... well time has no real meaning in this case, but for longer than is advisable. Additionally, there are the forces in real space who go renegade and/or fall to the temptation of Chaos regularly. It's one of those cases that yes, please give Chaos unique models and units to reflect their situation, but that should also include some overlap with what the Imperials have given the setting and history of the fiction. But I recognize it's a tricky line to walk and not easy decisions to make. DuskRaider and Panzer 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Dark mech codex would be super easy. We can see from codex thousand sons that they unafraid to raid other model lines to bulk out an army, so a dark mech codex would be: Warp Smith Ad mech leader dude Chaos Cultists Assassin robot things Mauler fiend Forge fiend Defiler Hell drake Hell brute Hell-Knight Armiger Hell-Knight knight questor The 3 other knight types (warden, etc) The new knight. +/- blight hauler and plague drone. Gederas 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 And if we look at the actual AdMech then we can see that they could also just make something completely new and ignore the Daemon Engines etc. from the CSM Codex. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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