Panzer Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 I wish I could freak my opponents out with something as weak as Sniper Rifles. My opponents just deride and ignore them ... and I honestly can't be mad at them since they barely do anything even against weaker characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulkan81 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I somehow luck out and almost always roll a 6 for one of them. But they are usually dead by turn two or three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 My CCW Scouts earned their points back again yesterday besting some Bloodletters in close combat before nabbing and objective each. Not too shabby for 55 points per squad. :) Majkhel 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dread05 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) Another side question about scouts. What bases do you use? I know the kit comes with 25mm. Should I use 32mm? Edited March 27, 2018 by dread05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I generally try to use the size of base provided. My exception is regular dudes in power armour who still get 25mm bases to match my older models. Larger bases make it slightly easier to use Scouts for screening as you can string them out a bit further and also makes it slightly easier to get into range of aura buffs. On the downside it can be slightly harder to squeeze them into terrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majkhel Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 My scouts keep the smaller bases as it helps them stick close in case they are in cover. Most of the time they operate independently so no buffs either. For area denial dispersion, bigger bases do not make much difference for me. In this role I prefer to have multiple units and use spacing between the units more then spacing between models. Also in case of inevitable losses, less gaps are created when you rely on units rather than models for area denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallas Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I went for the 32mm bases, because I feel that that size really suits Power Armoured models, and on Scouts it: emphasises that they're smaller than their PA Brothers; keeps the unity of the force better; and it gives a better scale for them over things (such as Guardsmen, or 'gaunts) without actually making them larger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I'd go for 32mm as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_b Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 25mm it's what they come with. I like 32 for the power armor marines as I feel it emphasizes their size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) So if you really wanted to go close range anti-horde Dakka , you could give the sergeant a pair of flamer pistols for minuscule points and mimic the sororita’s... I just noticed in his entry you can replace his bolt pistol and his Bolter with items on the pistols list. Combine with shotguns and you have a unit without much range, but will HAVE to be dealt with. A pair of flame pistols would probably not be fun to charge due to over watch either. Alternatively, for harder targets, a pair of inferno pistols, but that might be a bit too expensive for mere speed bump. Edited March 27, 2018 by Paladin777 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Flame pistols are terrible and I'd advice against using them in any kind or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 OK, that’s fine. You could still dual wield plasma pistols because thats cool, if a bit sub optimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indefragable Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Most tournaments say that you have to use the same size base that comes with a model in its original package, for what that's worth. Tactical Marines/Devastators/ASM are the problem children with that formula because they were re-based between 6th/7th Ed, but 32mm seems to be the new standard for them. As for Scout loadouts, I would have to say that I have settled on 2 main ways of running them: CQWs With Red Thirst, this gives our melee Scouts a distinct advantage and you want as many attacks as possible Heavy Bolter Take weapons of your choice (which usually ends up as bolters since they're free and 24") and add a Heavy Bolter to hold an obj. 13x Melta bombs in cost gives you a unit cheap and low-threat enough to survive a few rounds while the heavy bolter means they are a snake in the grass just waiting to venomously bite an ankle with the Hellfire Shells Strategem. Seriously, never underestimate that ability, whether giving or receiving. Lately I have been running Scout spam lists, since I love being able to start 9" away from the enemy deployment while seriously :cuss -ing up the middle of the board. My latest list: Hidden Content Blood Angels Brigade +9CP HQ: Captain -jump pack -inferno pistol -thunder hammer Lieutenant -jump pack -inferno pistol -thunder hammer Sanguinary Priest -jump pack -chainsword x 2 The Sanguinor TROOPS: Scouts x 5 -combat knife + bolt pistol x 4 -Sgt power sword + chainsword Scouts x 5 -combat knife + bolt pistol x 4 -Sgt power sword + chainsword Scouts x 5 -combat knife + bolt pistol x 4 -Sgt power sword + chainsword Scouts x 5 -combat knife + bolt pistol x 4 -Sgt power sword + chainsword Scouts x 5 -combat knife + bolt pistol x 4 -Sgt power sword + chainsword Scouts x 5 -combat knife + bolt pistol x 4 -Sgt power sword + chainsword ELITES: Company Ancient -jump pack -combi-plasma Company Veterans -jump packs -plasma gun + chainsword x 2 -Sgt combi-plasma + power sword Sanguinary Guard x 9 -encarmine sword + plasma pistol x 8 -encarmine sword + angelus boltgun x 1 FAST ATTACK: Assault Marines x 5 -jump packs -chainsword + bolt pistol x 3 -chainsword + inferno pistol x 1 -Sgt inferno pistol + power sword Assault Marines x 5 -jump packs -chainsword + bolt pistol x 3 -chainsword + inferno pistol x 1 -Sgt inferno pistol + power sword Assault Marines x 5 -jump packs -chainsword + bolt pistol x 3 -chainsword + inferno pistol x 1 -Sgt inferno pistol + power sword HEAVY SUPPORT: Devastators x 5 -lascannon x 2 -Sgt chainsword -armorium cherub Devastators x 5 -lascannon x 2 -Sgt chainsword -armorium cherub Devastators x 5 -heavy bolter x 1 -Sgt chainsword -armorium cherub The idea is drastically simple: The Sanguinor (often WL to make everyone Fearless), Sanguinary Priest, and Company Ancient go in the center and everyone forms a ball around them like drones to the flagship at the end of Ender's Game https://youtu.be/fg3h-fzjxjQ?t=3m7s . They then use their jump packs to catch up to the melee Scouts who start as close to the enemy as possible. Everything is loaded with power swords to get the most mileage out of the Sanguinor + Sanguinary Priest buffs. It is a bit of an "all-in" build, but it tends to catch opponents off guard because of the sheer lethality of "bad" units like melee Scouts and ASM. Hiding inferno pistols in the ASM also works well since they last just long enough to into the opponent's armor underbelly and do some work. If I had more points I would add more inferno pistols all over the place (perhaps even the Scouts) to further add to the "death by a thousand cuts" element of the army. Speaking of army...this list tends to play more like a navy than an army, if you will, since 90% of it hinges on how well you keep things in Formation with the buffs, especially absolutely milking the Standard of Sacrifice for all it's worth. With the SoS (ha!) as the centerpiece, a list like this with so many Scouts + ASM goes from wiped off the board to shockingly resilient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Lately I have been running Scout spam lists, since I love being able to start 9" away from the enemy deployment while seriously -ing up the middle of the board. My latest list: I know that feeling. I've so much fun with my T'au Stealth units and if Reiver had infiltration instead of a reserve rule I'd spam the :cuss out of them. :D Indefragable 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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