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Fraters! Diagram dude and I had a rematch yesterday, and man did I learn a lot.  

 

He brought essentially the LVO list that came in 4th - and it is one tough nut to crack.  We got in two games, which we split.  I conceded the first game after my first turn (and I went first).  The writing was already on the walls - those standards + primaris + a HUGE brick of death company...man oh man.  

 

The second game I won - narrowly - and only because Meph was dead set on killing himself.  He perils'd - which forced a CP re-roll, then overcharged and rolled a 1 on his pistol - which forced a re-roll, which resulted in another one.  Long story short - I have GOT to learn tactical patience with the BA.  I run right out of reserves and put everything into the fight as soon as possible...and that just isn't a winning strategy.  So to counter that, I thought I would re-do my list to help mitigate my own weaknesses as a commander.

 

I would love to hear everyone's thoughts on the synergies (or not) of the list and beg for your collective wisdom.  Thanks!

 

Total CP - 7
Battalion - 3 CP 
 
HQ
Captain w/ JP (Angel's Wings), Thunderhammer, SS
Captain w/ JP, storm bolter, power sword
 
Troops
Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux grenade
Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux grenade
Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux grenade
 
Fast Attack
Plasma Inceptors x 3
 
Heavy Support
Hellblaster x 8
 
Flyers
Fire Raptor w/ lascannons
 
Vanguard Detachment - 1 CP
 
HQ
Sanguinary Priest w/ JP, storm bolter
 
Elites
Relic Sicaran w/ Lascannons
Sanguinary Guard x 8, 2x PF
Sanguinary Ancient, PF
Company Ancient, power sword
 
It comes in at 1998 - I am trying to benefit from our standard synergies, my fire raptor as chaff clearance (instead of death company) and use my hellblasters and intercessors as a mobile, hard to shift firebase.  Thoughts?  
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I think if you're wanting to go back to the Hellblaster fire base then you should drop the stormbolter buff captain and bring in the Deredeo with pavise. You can use Wisdom of the Ancients for 1 CP to gain reroll ones aura in the shooting phase, which is all you are bringing the captain for anyway.

Batting around a couple of lists after me and Diagram's last two games - would love everyone's thoughts!

 

First list - 

Battalion - 3 CP   

HQ

Captain w/ JP (Angel's Wings), Thunderhammer, SS

Sanguinor  

 

Troops

Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux

Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux

Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux  

 

Fast Attack

Plasma Inceptors x 3  

 

Flyers

Fire Raptor w/ lascannons  

 

Vanguard Detachment - 1 CP  

HQ

Sanguinary Priest w/ JP, storm bolter  

 

Elites

Relic Sicaran w/ Lascannons

Sanguinary Guard x 8

Deredeo w/ Anvilus

Vanguard Vets x 6, 3x SS, 2x TH

 

Second list - 

 

Battalion - 3 CP   

HQ

Captain w/ JP (Angel's Wings), Thunderhammer, SS

Captain w/ JP, storm bolter, power sword  

 

Troops

Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux grenade

Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux grenade

Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux grenade  

 

Fast Attack

Plasma Inceptors x 3  

 

Heavy Support

Hellblaster x 8  

 

Flyers

Fire Raptor w/ lascannons  

 

Vanguard Detachment - 1 CP  

HQ

Sanguinary Priest w/ JP, storm bolter  

 

Elites

Relic Sicaran w/ Lascannons

Sanguinary Guard x 8, 2x PF

Sanguinary Ancient, PF

Company Ancient, power sword

 

Final List - 

Battalion - 3 CP   

HQ

Captain w/ JP (Angel's Wings), Thunderhammer, SS

Chaplain w/ JP  

 

Troops

Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux

Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux

Intercessors x 5, bolt rifle, chainsword, aux  

 

Flyers

Fire Raptor w/ lascannons  

 

Vanguard Detachment - 1 CP  

HQ

Sanguinary Priest w/ JP, power sword  

 

Elites

Deredeo w/ Anvilus, Atomantic

Death Company x 9, JP

Company Ancient, power sword  

 

Outrider Detachment - 1 CP  

HQ

Captain  

 

Heavy Support

Hellblaster x 5

Hellblaster x 5

Hellblaster x 5

Edited by keeblerartillery
Basically I have been rereading Morts observations and reviewing the LVO and other tournament feedback and am trying to figure out how to maximize our horde clearing and big monster killing capabilities Edited by keeblerartillery

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