Anarnii Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 How is everyone getting the 2++ on the Grand master dread knight? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avak786 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 How is everyone getting the 2++ on the Grand master dread knight? Casting sanctuary first and then using the "heed the prognosticars" stratagem Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 How is everyone getting the 2++ on the Grand master dread knight? Casting sanctuary first and then using the "heed the prognosticars" stratagem How's that supposed to work? You use the Stratagem at the start of your turn so either the 2++ lasts only for your movement phase (sanctuary cast last turn) or you can't cast sanctuary due already having a 3++. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muaddib Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 How is everyone getting the 2++ on the Grand master dread knight? Casting sanctuary first and then using the "heed the prognosticars" stratagem The other way around actually. You have to use the stratagem at the beginning of your turn, then cast sanctuary in the psychic phase. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 How is everyone getting the 2++ on the Grand master dread knight?Casting sanctuary first and then using the "heed the prognosticars" stratagem The other way around actually. You have to use the stratagem at the beginning of your turn, then cast sanctuary in the psychic phase. That doesn't work either tho. If you use the Stratagem it already has a 3++ so Sanctuary doesn't work (improves only up to a 3++). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Two different buffs. You don't actually have a 2++. You have a 3++ with +1 to the roll. The only thing the nerf did was stop sanctuary working on draigo. Or an index libby with SS. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Oh I see. Makes a lot more sense now! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Draigo can also have a 2++ with heed. Guess someone just thought it was too easy with sanctuary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Because a Stratagem is less easy ... especially since there're so many other good Stratagems to spend the CP on. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helycon Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Draigo can also have a 2++ with heed. Guess someone just thought it was too easy with sanctuary.Which is odd, since it can fail or be countered by deny the witch. Then again, I guess Dark Eldar can do that too for Heed from now on! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Fortis Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Don't they use their stratagem only on stratagems that are used during phases? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helycon Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Don't they use their stratagem only on stratagems that are used during phases? Currently, it's cut off. It does state that it can't be used on 'stratagems used before the battle', but that doesn't exclude Heed. Still, the full wording may clarify. It's hella expensive to use though, and you get the CP back most of the time. Doesn't change the fact it's a strong Stratagem, not only against GK. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Yeah is so it can't styme roster setups like extra relics, captain upgrades and units placed in reserves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5046658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Iron Smith Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Hey guys, i am the player facing Muaddib with my DA, Tyranids, Guard, Inquisition (and soon Chaos). It is true I only won a couple of games against its GK and it doesn't count, because of weird missions. In regular matched-ups I always lost so far. I don't play Primaris, hell no heretics ! Plasma is my main weapon, especially in 8th ed. I have quite the luck with warhammer dices, well to be accurate, i just do lots of 5+ and 6+, pretty insane rolls sometimes... That works in both ways... My "gift" can easiliy make sure my vehicle explode in the middle of my lines... even after a reroll ! As for skills, i have some good ones but some are not needed anymore, like estimate ranges... I don't have enough experience with the different army lists I play. I am learning several factions at the same time, stratagems and game mechanics, trying many various lists for each. I am trying to adapt my armies in 8th lists. It's hard but I am getting there. Finally it is true Muaddib is better to what the game is right now : mobile skirmish with MEK units. As a result, the GK match-up is too high for me and the troops i have at disposal. But I keep trying, that's the spirit. What i like the most is too see a battle, not to win it. But frustating to keep loosing versus the GK ratata alpha strike (Interceptors and Stormraven), heavy hitter/tanker (Draigo, gmndk) and massive redeploy for objectives (Gate). Mainly full MEK with a lot of invulnerables + every one is psyker and i don't play yet efficient counter psy units. Enjoy it when it lasts friend, it won't be long before the Primarch himself will rise to cross swords with your Dreadknights ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345334-new-to-gk/page/3/#findComment-5047320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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