Enurta Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Trying to get my local players to start playing more objective based games, instead of massive 4000+ bring everything you have kill point games. Hopefully, eventually getting them into campaigns. This list has plenty of scoring units and some anti-tank, but not enough for my liking. Any suggestions would be appreciated. 3rd Company Elite - 3000 Legiones Astartes Lord Commander Eidolon: jump pack 205 Primus Medicae: artificer armour; power weapon (axe); bolter; melta bombs; refractor field 137 Chaplain: artificer armour; melta bombs; refractor field 110 10 Kakophoni Chora: Orchestrator (artificer armour); 9 Kakophoni Chora 255 • Rhino: pintle-mounted multi-melta 50 10 Kakophoni Chora: Orchestrator (artificer armour); 9 Kakophoni Chora 255 • Rhino: pintle-mounted multi-melta 50 15 Assault Space Marines: Assault Sergeant (artificer armour; Phoenix power spear); 14 Assault Space Marines; 3 × power weapon 295 15 Assault Space Marines: Assault Sergeant (artificer armour; Phoenix power spear); 14 Assault Space Marines; 3 × power weapon 295 8 Terminators: Terminator Sergeant (combi-weapon; Phoenix power spear); 7 Terminators; Terminator armour (Cataphractii); 7 × combi-weapon (melta); 3 × lightning claw; 4 × chainfist 381 Apothecarion Detachment • Apothecary: jump pack 60 • Apothecary: jump pack 60 Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter: 2 × 2 wing-mounted Kraken penetrator heavy missiles; battle servitor control; ground-tracking auguries 230 Kharybdis Assault Claw 235 Fulgrim the Illuminator: Rite of War (3rd Company Elite); Fireblade 380 Legiones Astartes: Emperor's Children Force Organisation Chart: Crusade 2,998 points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuka06 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Don't you want an Apothecary in the Kakaphoni squads with an Augury scanner? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/#findComment-5038773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I think you should drop one or even both of the Assaults. You don't need that much melee power when you have a Primarch and 8 Terminators. You could instead buy some anti armour with those points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/#findComment-5039174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I say keep the assaults! They are fluffy and the EC specialise in combat. I'd ditch medicae, and choose fulgrim or Eidolon and not both Use those points then for some added fire power (Javs and sicarans fit the fast theme of the E.C ethos) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/#findComment-5039633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enurta Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 I'm down with dropping eidolon and adding some MM Javelins. Is the Medicae not worth running? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/#findComment-5041096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 most things that go after your terminators will instant death them (power fist, str10 blasts etc...) So personally, I don't think so And you want your Chaplin in termie armour too, probably with a phoenix spear Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/#findComment-5041349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enurta Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Moved some things around but still have 79 points to play with. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Only thing I can think of is an extra javelin or melta bombs for one of the assault squad. 3rd Company Elite - 3000Legiones Astartes Chaplain in Terminator armour: Terminator armour (Cataphractii); Phoenix power spear 125 9 Kakophoni Chora: Orchestrator (artificer armour); 8 Kakophoni Chora 235 • Rhino: pintle-mounted multi-melta 50 9 Kakophoni Chora: Orchestrator (artificer armour); 8 Kakophoni Chora 235 • Rhino: pintle-mounted multi-melta 50 15 Assault Space Marines: Assault Sergeant (artificer armour; Phoenix power spear); 14 Assault Space Marines; 3 × power weapon 295 15 Assault Space Marines: Assault Sergeant (artificer armour; Phoenix power spear); 14 Assault Space Marines; 3 × power weapon 295 8 Terminators: Terminator Sergeant (combi-weapon; Phoenix power spear); 7 Terminators; Terminator armour (Cataphractii); 7 × combi-weapon (melta); 3 × lightning claw; 4 × chainfist 381 Apothecarion Detachment • Apothecary: power sword; jump pack 70 • Apothecary: power sword; jump pack 70 Apothecarion Detachment • Apothecary: artificer armour; augury scanner 60 • Apothecary: artificer armour; augury scanner 60 Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter: 2 × 2 wing-mounted Kraken penetrator heavy missiles; battle servitor control; ground-tracking auguries 230 Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron • Javelin Attack Speeder: pintle-mounted multi-melta; 2 × hunter-killer missiles 75 • Javelin Attack Speeder: pintle-mounted multi-melta; 2 × hunter-killer missiles 75 Kharybdis Assault Claw 235 Fulgrim the Illuminator: Rite of War (3rd Company Elite); Fireblade 380 Legiones Astartes: Emperor's Children Force Organisation Chart: Crusade 2,921 points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/#findComment-5041489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Looks great, very similar to a list idea I had I think you could do either with the points and it would be fine. I'd personally go with phoenix guard over normal termies, but understand that they are sub-par in comparison and cost more points and $$ Like that there's no tanks and the kharybdis is a firm fave of mine over the standard/done to death Spartan. It served Angron and his squad well when I used to use it Now get painting! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/#findComment-5041641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffy Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Very similar to a list I'm planning on running. Only thing I can think is consider melta bombs on the ass marines with the buff they got. That squad can nope Spartans and the like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/#findComment-5042176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Combat shields on the assault sarges. You’d be amazed how that 5++ in combat can save your skin, well worth those few extra points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/#findComment-5042664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuka06 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Very intruiging list. I thinks that's a good baseline to go off on. One remark regarding the Chaplain. You get a free power weapon (which can and maybe should be a power Axe) For the Phoenix Spear, you would have to pay extra. not sure if that's worth it. With those points you could increase the Javelin Speeder Squadron to 3 and/or buy Melta Bombs for the Assault Sergeants and/or the Combar shields, like @Theredknight suggested. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/#findComment-5046222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enurta Posted April 2, 2018 Author Share Posted April 2, 2018 I ended up dropping the apothecaries for the Kakkophoni squads and making them both back up to 10 mans. Was able to add melta bombs to the both entire assault squads at the cost of one krak missile on a speeder. I know the chaplain comes with a free power weapon, but it now it's either a hunter killer missile or another AP2 weapon at I niative on the charge for Fulgrims squad. 3rd Company Elite - 3000Legiones Astartes Chaplain in Terminator armour: Terminator armour (Cataphractii); combi-weapon (melta); Phoenix power spear 132 10 Kakophoni Chora: Orchestrator (artificer armour); 9 Kakophoni Chora 255 • Rhino: pintle-mounted multi-melta 50 10 Kakophoni Chora: Orchestrator (artificer armour); 9 Kakophoni Chora 255 • Rhino: pintle-mounted multi-melta 50 15 Assault Space Marines: Assault Sergeant (artificer armour; Phoenix power spear; combat shield); 14 Assault Space Marines; 3 × power weapon; melta bombs 373 15 Assault Space Marines: Assault Sergeant (artificer armour; Phoenix power spear; combat shield); 14 Assault Space Marines; 3 × power weapon; melta bombs 373 8 Terminators: Terminator Sergeant (combi-weapon; Phoenix power spear); 7 Terminators; Terminator armour (Cataphractii); 7 × combi-weapon (melta); 3 × lightning claw; 4 × chainfist 381 Apothecarion Detachment • Apothecary: power sword; jump pack 70 • Apothecary: power sword; jump pack 70 Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter: 2 × 2 wing-mounted Kraken penetrator heavy missiles; battle servitor control; ground-tracking auguries 230 Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron • Javelin Attack Speeder: pintle-mounted multi-melta; 2 × hunter-killer missiles 75 • Javelin Attack Speeder: pintle-mounted multi-melta; searchlight; hunter-killer missiles 71 Kharybdis Assault Claw 235 Fulgrim the Illuminator: Rite of War (3rd Company Elite); Fireblade 380 Legiones Astartes: Emperor's Children Force Organisation Chart: Crusade 3,000 points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345337-emperors-children-3rd-company-elite-3000/#findComment-5046580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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