Paladin777 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 (edited) I might be entering in a local tournament next weekend and I was looking for possible advice. The tournament is a sort of escalation setup where there are 4 games. The first at 500 pts, second at 1000 pts, third at 1500 pts, and the 4th at 2000. I have only one squad of 10 tzaangors at my disposal, but lots of rubricae at my disposal, both marines and SOT’s. Some predators, a defiler, a baledrake, a few plasma Helbrutes, and all manner of sorcerers. I was thinking something kinda like this 500- patrol Ahriman on disc 6 rubric marines 6 rubric marines 10 tzaangors with instrument (probably in webway) 1000- battalion Ahriman on disc Twin sword exalted on disc Squad 10 rubrics with soulreaper cannon Squad 7 rubrics Squad 10 tzaangors with instrument Squad 5 SOT with SRC and hellfyre launcher 1500 batallion Ahriman on disc Twin sword exalted on disc 10 rubric with SRC 10 rubrics with SRC 10 tzaangors with instrument Vanguard- Termie sorcerer 5 SOT’s with SRC and launcher Helbrute with plasma and fist Helbrute with plasma and scourge 2000 Battalion Ahriman on disc Double sword exalted 11 rubrics with SRC 10 rubrics with SRC 10 tzaangors with brayhorn Auto-las predator Auto-las predator Vanguard detachment Termie sorcerer with familiar 8 SOT with SRC and hellfyre launcher Helbrute with fist and plasma Helbrute with scourge and plasma Let me know what you guys think, any constructive criticism would be welcome. Edited March 22, 2018 by Paladin777 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 At my FLGS I have done two escalation league things. At 500 points one player brought two kastellans in admech which with all rules and equipment something like 36 shots a turn. Another guy brought 2 leman russ tanks. So you have to be wary of that. Otherwise I love Tzaangors and the more the better for me, but you don't have more. If you have a demon prince or access to a demon prince I would use him he is great. Maybe a spearhead with 2 preds and the Defiler with an Exalted? Re-roll ones to hit and can cast temporal manipulation to put wounds back on your tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5035533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 19, 2018 Author Share Posted March 19, 2018 At what level are you suggesting the two predators and the deffy? The 4+ to hit is just a hard pill to swallow. I’d probably be more likely to run a Dakka predators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5035625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodd1888 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I've really started to like the Defilers as an option, with Scourge. With all the Daemon buff access, Daemon Forge, and RR 1's I've found they're viable. I've seen my army moving forward perpetually, and few options to quickly go back. A Defiler in the back, or pair, is seldom seen as a worry for many players but it helps deny a lot of space and makes people second guess a Deep Strike assault plan. That said, I use them only when I have a Daemons detatchment. Flamers, 3x10 Brims and Fluxmaster/Changecaster to roll with my Disc-go-goats, and the other Herald hangs in the back with the Daemon Engines. It's been fairly successful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5035727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 At what level are you suggesting the two predators and the deffy? The 4+ to hit is just a hard pill to swallow. I’d probably be more likely to run a Dakka predators. 1500-2000, i suppose. The Defiler although BS4+ if run with an Exalted Sorcerer would benefit from reroll hits of 1 and the could threaten enemy deepstrike with his claws where as a tank is obviously garbage in the fight phase. A 3 predator would do as well as you can use the killshot strategem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5035742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted March 19, 2018 Share Posted March 19, 2018 I like your lists and hope you enter and do well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5035766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) According to the rules of the tournament, you can add numbers and wargear to your lists with each successive game, but you cannot take away numbers or wargear from any squads. As such, I either need to find points for the Brayhorn in my last list, or drop it entirely. Any suggestions? Ive tentatively made a list that drops the rhino and adds a model to one of he rubric squads (for 11) and a SOT as they’ve always been solid performers for me and leaves room for the brayhorn. Alternatively, I could just add Magnus to the 1500 to make the 2000 point list just to be cheeky! Edited March 20, 2018 by Paladin777 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5036057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) Option 2, just because I love my Scarab Occult Terminators. Even if it’s a bit ridiculous, I never got to play a Sekhmet Conclave in 7th Edited March 21, 2018 by Paladin777 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5036779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are Verlo Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I say go for the SOTs Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5039078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 That would be baller! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5039222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) Ok, so I think this is the madness I’m going to go with! Patrol-484 Ahriman on disc 5 SOT 10 tzaangors with brayhorn Patrol-990 Ahriman on disc Twin sword exalted 5 SOT 5 SOT 6 rubrics 10 tzaangors with brayhorn Vanguard plus battalion 1495 Ahriman on disc Twin sword exalted Termie sorcerer 5 sot 5 sot 5 sot 7 rubrics 5 rubrics 10 tzaangors with brayhorn Vanguard plus batallion1999 Ahriman on disc Twin sword exalted Termie sorcerer 5 sot 5 sot 10 sot 12 rubrics with SRC 12 rubrics with SRC 10 tzaangors with brayhorn Since I haven’t build the fourth scarab occult sorcerer yet, should I have three squads of terminators? Or three squads of five and one squad of 10? Edit: screw it, who DOESN’T want 10 scarab occult terminators hitting on 2’s, rerolling ones, with a +1 to hit... Edited March 23, 2018 by Paladin777 Kite Senet 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5039230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 With that many sots I agree and say go with a brick and supporting sots, that looks fun. Good luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5039354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Lost my first round to scatterbike Eldar. My termies dropped and killed half the bikes and a vyper, but after that he kept out of range and I was done. I almost killed his warlord (farseer on bike) with Ahriman but he was crazy lucky with his saves. I also had a completely tanked second turn psychic phase. Perils on my SOT champion, and rolled a total of 3 for all of Ahriman’s powers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5039704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) I played against scatter bikes my last game. I got my Tzaangors stuck in and used the attack twice strategem and beat them down pretty good. In my escalation league last game i played against Imperial Guard and had a hard fought loss in points in Turn 6. I he came with 6 guard squads to company commanders and 4 Leman Russ battle tanks. 12 wounds at T8 and 3+ is a tough nut to crack. Edited March 24, 2018 by Raven1 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5039814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 It was 500 points on a 4 x 6 table, there was no way I was going to catch him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5039859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Are Verlo Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Lost my first round to scatterbike Eldar. My termies dropped and killed half the bikes and a vyper, but after that he kept out of range and I was done. I almost killed his warlord (farseer on bike) with Ahriman but he was crazy lucky with his saves. I also had a completely tanked second turn psychic phase. Perils on my SOT champion, and rolled a total of 3 for all of Ahriman’s powers. Well, that is a weakness with a cool liste like yours; at low point games the lack of mobility and relatively shot range makes some matchups hard. Like mobile eldar with 36" scatter lasers. If you increase the size of the battle, you will bring more characters and grab the DMC to "catch up" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345373-escalating-tournament-500100015002000/#findComment-5040373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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