MeatGrinder Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 So I thought we could do with a topic discussing the best way to suck up those delicious command points for our golden boys. So what are you taking for allied battalions? Deep striking scions seems pretty good for taking out priority targets, but pure guardsmen is cheap as chips. Another consideration would be skitarii, 5man units of dudes with arquebus for sniping characters at long range is pretty cheap for some fairly durable (4+6++) infantry. 3x5 scouts for deep strike deny are also an option. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 A lot of people like to take AM. Here’s what Geoff Robinson brought to Adepticon: Company Commander (Grand Strategist) Company Commander (Kurlov’s Aquila) 3x Infantry Squad (Mortar) 3x Heavy Weapon Team (Mortar) He also has an Imperial Vanguard Detachment: Primaris Psyker Culexus Assassin Eversor Assassin Callidus Assassin Lots of CP and can farm a lot more during games. Some people are using admech for anti-tank. I’m using SM with lots of plasma and a Culexus. I’d recommend a Culexus to most anyone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5039674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadnaughty Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I'm personally not a fan of IG mortar's because I already run a lot of bikes. I don't need more s4 shooting. My fav's are IG Scions. Prime (Command Rod, Grand Strategist) Prime (Command Rod, Kurov's Aquila) 3x5 Scions (2x plasma gun, 1x plasma pistol) (324 points) or Blood Angels Captain (TH, SS, JP, Angel's Wings(relic)) Priest 3x5 Scouts (363 points) Or both for maximum 'fun'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5039720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Nice ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5039724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 I tried out the scions list using some friends models. Holy crap they wrecked face. Rerolling 1s because of orders makes them excellent at overcharging. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5043056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombatVet Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I tend to go Ad Mech for the sweet sweet shooting since it is something Custodes doesn’t have much of. Usual Mars Cawl, Robots and Neutronagers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5044859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraWlad Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 3x5 Scions (2x plasma gun, 1x plasma pistol) A little side note: AM codex says "For every five models in the unit, up to two other Tempestus Scions may replace their hot-shot lasgun with a ..." For me it looks like you must have at least 7 guys in the unit to get two plasma-guns: 5 models to unlock them and two other to take special weapons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5045041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Is it preceedes by a different option? Like a vox or something? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5045049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstraWlad Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Is it preceedes by a different option? Like a vox or something? Yes it is. You think that it what "other" refers to? (English is not native to me so I can easily accept my interpretation is wrong) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5045050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeatGrinder Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Is it preceedes by a different option? Like a vox or something? Yes it is. You think that it what "other" refers to? (English is not native to me so I can easily accept my interpretation is wrong) Its 2 plasma per 5 scions but not any scions that have other wargear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5045057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadnaughty Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Is it preceedes by a different option? Like a vox or something? Yes it is. You think that it what "other" refers to? (English is not native to me so I can easily accept my interpretation is wrong) The other indeed references the Vox. Meaning you cannot have someone with both a Vox and a Special weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5045069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I am a fan right now of running Death Korp of Krieg alongside my Custodes. They hold objectives well in the face of fire (no morale from causalities in the shooting phase.) They are equivalent in cost to regular AM (infantry squads are more, but officers are less) and due to morale are slightly more survivable. I have been running them along with a few basilisks for LOS ignoring fire with some punch. I had debated using Cadians or Catachans, but kept coming back to the fact you have to kill every model to get rid of them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5046509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 The DKoK problem is that their BS is 4+. I’m not sure that they could be the best choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5046531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 The DKoK problem is that their BS is 4+. I’m not sure that they could be the best choice. That isn't a DKoK problem so much as it is a AM problem. Sidenote, DKoK sergeants are BS3, and have a gun instead of pistol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5046541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 The DKoK problem is that their BS is 4+. I’m not sure that they could be the best choice. That isn't a DKoK problem so much as it is a AM problem. Sidenote, DKoK sergeants are BS3, and have a gun instead of pistol. Also just realized not sure how this is a problem, AM infantry easily make up for BS4 with quantity of shots vs other imperials with BS3. What are you comparing them to? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5046550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danarc Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I made a bad explanation. I meant that they only have BS 4+ while their WS is 3+ that is wasted. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5046574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Lol melee guard... 1) you don't need it with AM 2) don't do things like charge guardsmen into Tyrants. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5046610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
THUNDERFISTS Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Where's the Krieg "FIX BAYONETS" meme at? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5046656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 So they are bad because they are better? WS3 isn't going to make them a beast, but at least they can beat similar units to themselves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5046704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 It’s superfluous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345545-battalion-allies-for-custodes/#findComment-5046819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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