synthaside Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) Hey folks, I was assembling my Knights from forgebane and went to remind myself of the points cost of the knights so I can knock up a test list ... Some of the basic costs of the units in the back for forgebane have changed , Perhaps this is an indicator of things to come .... Or just bad editing... Rangers per model 8 points .... back to its old pre Chapter approved price? Enhanced Data tether 9 points .... chapter approved has it at 5, the dex was also 9 Heres the big one thoughTransuranic Arquebus 14 points , Codex is 25 and So was CAThoughts ? if this is the case moving forward based on the incoming FAQeven if rangers do go back to 8 points per model i can see me running way more Tua's Edited March 24, 2018 by synthaside Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I wouldn't be very surprised if Rangers got a little more expensive. Vanguard were statistically better against most targets in 7th, but cheaper. Now rangers are slightly better against most targets, but cheaper. Maybe they'll finally get this nailed down! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5039852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Huh, that is odd. At first, you could chalk it up to production schedule having the print material done before the changes, so it has the old points for Rangers and the Tether, but then the TA at 14, where the heck is that from? Yes, the 11 points saving is quite nice even if the Rangers return to 8 each. It'll be interesting to see how this pans out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5039867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 It's possible the changes were also specific for Forgebane games. One of the missions specified in the fluff blurb that they had TAs so maybe they changed the price just to make them fit. The Necron Wraiths don't match the Index or the Codex, which I'm not sure is intentional or not. I haven't looked much at the rest, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5039875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Which means the Armiger Warglaive points may not be the points in the Knight Codex.... Bat33.1, Boyadventurer and KhorneHunter57x 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5039910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted March 25, 2018 Author Share Posted March 25, 2018 All very odd indeed , but supposedly gw balance on power rather than points ...?? It's odd but technically as this is a legal points source, bring aka the only book for the armigar it's setting a dangerous precidence ... Or perhaps it's just sloppy editing Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5039934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 *does his best take on an old-timey radio news broadcaster voice* Inquiring minds want to know. Time will tell. Battybattybats 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5039950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plasmablasts Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Is this a preview of the imminently expected re-balancing, arriving prematurely through the time-distorting effects of the Immaterium? One for the Ordo Chronos, perhaps. Battybattybats 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5040028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 When is the next chapter approved expected? Is it this month, and do we have a confirmed date? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5040114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 CA will be annual, but there is an FAQ coming soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5040151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I have a feeling that the Forgebane stuff was written, and printed a long time ago. By the time the stuff hits production it's possible the written material is very dated as far as rules that are very dynamic in 8th. I'm totally guessing though. The only thing that makes me think this way is the Warglaive feels dated out of the box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5040186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Ah my bad. I meant when is the coming FAQ likely to drop? Next few weeks you folks think? The point values on the armigers do seem a smidgeon high Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5040195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Ah my bad. I meant when is the coming FAQ likely to drop? Next few weeks you folks think? The point values on the armigers do seem a smidgeon high They said "in March" in their update timeline post. So, my guess is it'll drop Saturday with the Necron codex, but that's completely a guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5040207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Discord Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I have a feeling that the Forgebane stuff was written, and printed a long time ago. By the time the stuff hits production it's possible the written material is very dated as far as rules that are very dynamic in 8th. I'm totally guessing though. The only thing that makes me think this way is the Warglaive feels dated out of the box. Given the reality of lead times, the potential for delays for any number of reasons causing potential release reorganization, it's completely probable. Have a look at the copyright © date on the Armiger sprew to get a better sense of when the 3D model was complete and/or when the casting die was cut and you might be able to get an idea if it's been waiting its turn for a while. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5040338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorNese Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I have a feeling that the Forgebane stuff was written, and printed a long time ago. By the time the stuff hits production it's possible the written material is very dated as far as rules that are very dynamic in 8th. I'm totally guessing though. The only thing that makes me think this way is the Warglaive feels dated out of the box. My guess, this is it. The box is old, and except for the transuranic arquebus, all points values are pre-Chapter Approved. The sprues were made 2017, which would probably mean that when the box was printed, CA was not out yet. These points differences aren't what's to come, it's what was back before CA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5040435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Would love these changes. Ranger squads go up 5 points but drop 22 from guns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345553-weird-costings-in-forgebane/#findComment-5040555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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