jpwyrm Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Hello fellow Shadow Captains. I come today seeking advices on how to face the Deathguards and their daemonic Primarch. I'll be playing a game against Deathguard tomorrow Andi never faced Mortarion before. I made a pretty hard alpha strike list and I'd like your input on how best to make it work and/or better. +++ Raptor 2000 v2 (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) +++ ++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Space Marines) [112 PL, 1805pts] ++ + No Force Org Slot + **Chapter Selection**: Raven Guard . Categories: No Force Org Slot + HQ + Lias Issodon [10 PL, 195pts]: Bolt pistol, Frag grenade, Krak grenade, Malice, Raptorclaw . Categories: Adeptus Astartes, Character, Infantry, Chapter Master, Lias Issodon, Raptors, Imperium, HQ Lieutenants [5 PL, 81pts] . Categories: Adeptus Astartes, Character, Imperium, Infantry, Lieutenants, HQ . 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The rest of the list can play the objective game and board control. The Inceptors can be dropped as a screen or to plug a hole in my line. Hopefully I can nuke Mortarion early on and then deal with the rest of the army. That is assuming I have turn 1. If not, then I need to bait him into splitting his force and then strike with the reserves were they'll deal the most damage. That's the plan. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345707-raptors-facing-deathguard/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Do not, under any circumstances, let Mortarion get into melee against anything you don't want to watch die horribly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345707-raptors-facing-deathguard/#findComment-5043565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpwyrm Posted March 31, 2018 Author Share Posted March 31, 2018 Good advice. So good news : Lias' Bomb nuked Mortarion turn 1. In fact, it dominated my right flank and rolled over everything that came close. Nice! Bad news : I had planned to use the Storm Raven to ferry part of my Bomb toward the Relic. The chaos Predator had something else in mind though and caused 12 wounds with it's two lascanons in turn 1 and finished it in turn 2!!! This really cut my mobility and the Deathguards capitalized on it, claiming the Relic with a character while a sorcerer and a squad of Plague Marines covered his retreat. All in all, I lost the game but I killed a lot more of the chaos Marines than I thought I would and suffered little losses in return. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345707-raptors-facing-deathguard/#findComment-5044793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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