Calistarius Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Hey guys, so I was experimenting with some primer and color combinations. I stumbled upon something that has been the fastest method to achieve the deep dark red that I like. I don’t enjoy the Blood Red that the Sons of Sanguinius used to be featured in. I prefer the new age darker red using Mephiston Red. However, I don’t care for the orange appearance it can have. I know. I’m really finicky. Red is easily my favorite color, but my least favorite to paint. This has changed my world. 2 step process; 1) Prime the model using Army Painter Chaotic Red. This dries into a dark red brown color. 2) Spray 2-3 thin coats of Mephiston Red spray. You’re done. The model on the right is primed. The one on the left has 2 coats of the red spray. The whole process took less than 15 minutes, including drying times between coats. I don’t have an airbrush. I’m not a confident painter, so I stick to manual brushes. I’ve struggled to find the right consistency to get that even coated appearance. I love how this turned out. It took much less paint to achieve the color I want than spraying over black primer, and it’s darker than going over white or grey. Plus, the red brown almost creates a preshading effect if you’re able to control your coats with the spray. I was stunned with how fast and well this turned out. I had to share. Edit: original image appeared darker than it should due to poor lighting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burias-Drak'shal Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 Looks good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5045005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluejayJunior Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I like it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5045245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Crimson Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Mephiston red spray is good. Probably one of the good alternatives to airbrush. Army painter ones are good too but I like the fine finish of the meph red even if it covers a little bit less. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5045528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calistarius Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 Mephiston red spray is good. Probably one of the good alternatives to airbrush. Army painter ones are good too but I like the fine finish of the meph red even if it covers a little bit less. Agreed. I’ve tried both now, and prefer the Meph sprays finish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5045560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xhris the Unpronounceable Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 I've just done 3 predators and a stormtalon using Mephiston red spray over a black undercoat, and it certainly gets my vote. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5045598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calistarius Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 I was using black as well, but will switch to this red brown from now on. It cut back 3 coats of the Meph spray...which saves me time and money! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5045601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xhris the Unpronounceable Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I'll give it a go when my current can of black runs out :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5046334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 The Meph red spray and myself have had some... Issues in the past. Most recently though I've found it to be OKAY. The brown layer really pushed it though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5046838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calistarius Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 I can totally see what you mean Charlo. If you’re not spraying in absolute ideal conditions it will be an uphill fight. I also noticed if you don’t hold the can level towards the end of its life you will wind up with some splotches. I did another batch last night, but we had some inclement weather and I ended up stripping them back down and resprayed. It’s not a flawless process by any means! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5047034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas7 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 How do you avoid over spraying? I usually start with a layer of army painter Dragon red then brush on the hard to reach areas and any places that need a layer of two. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5050402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calistarius Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Honestly, it just takes being careful. Make sure you keep at least 8” away from the model and do short even passes to get a thin layer. Let the layer dry for a couple of minutes while you spray another model before you apply another layer. I’ve messed up a few by being impatient. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5050404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 How do you avoid over spraying? I usually start with a layer of army painter Dragon red then brush on the hard to reach areas and any places that need a layer of two. Army painter sprays are different to GW, the paint is a lot thicker so you have to use from a little further away. It's also more likely to gum up details. If you still need to hit hard to reach areas, prime the model in sub-assemblies. Too much army painter spray will kill a model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5050488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Crimson Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 How do you avoid over spraying? I usually start with a layer of army painter Dragon red then brush on the hard to reach areas and any places that need a layer of two. Army painter sprays are thicker but covers more than GW sprays. You have to be extra careful with them. I used to love them until I messed up a couple of models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5050507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 How do you avoid over spraying? I usually start with a layer of army painter Dragon red then brush on the hard to reach areas and any places that need a layer of two. Army painter sprays are thicker but covers more than GW sprays. You have to be extra careful with them. I used to love them until I messed up a couple of models. Yea, this. I usually only use them for tanks, with large flat surfaces and little 'detail'. That said, overspraying can still pool in corners. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5051032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bremon Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I’ve had good luck with the application of army painter primer but the nozzles clog up on me before the can is empty every time. I finally said “enough!” and bought an airbrush. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345781-painting-discovery-quick-smooth-red/#findComment-5051310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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