Another Marine's Armour.

[Wargamer]

Hello Liberites!

 

This is something I have been thinking about over the past few days. Liber creations are often lonely things. Sure, we'll give and receive feedback, but ultimately our Chapters are primarily the work of one individual.

 

I'd like to propose that we try and change that. "Another Marine's Armour" is for members of the Liber to help flesh out each others Chapters not through critique, but with new content.

 

The rules are simple - if you want to take part, post your Chapter here. You can give a link to your IA, or if you haven't made one yet then a short list of key traits is fine.

 

When a Chapter is posted, feel free to create something for it. Make a campaign you feel personifies that Chapter, or a short story about a hero for that Chapter, or a relic for the Chapter.

 

Creators can then look at the creations of others and do what they like with them. You can incorporate these creations, rework them or ignore them. The goal is to get new takes and perspectives, and perhaps help see how other people view our Chapters.

 

Final point - if you feel someone has taken your Chapter in completely the wrong direction, use that as feedback! Why do people think that your Chapter works so differently to you? What have you failed to convey to the readers?

 

Anyway, I think that's all for the idea. I'll provide links and key notes for my own Chapter later and hopefully we can get this idea off the ground. :)

[Wargamer]

As promised, here are some keynotes, and a link to the Index.

 

• So far, the 4th, 5th and 8th Companies are the most fleshed out, with less work done with the 1st, 6th and 9th, and almost nothing done with the 2nd, 3rd and 7th Companies. The Chapter does not have a 10th Company.
• Supernovas do not use Scouts, and do not have permanent Assault Squads. These form on an as-needed basis. 
• Supernovas use a lot of old technology - the most common armour in the Chapter is Mk VI "Corvus" armour, they use Deimos pattern vehicles and they generally lack newer tech like Centurions.
• Supernovas do not respect authority that hasn't proven itself to members of the Chapter. As such, they generally look down on forces they have not served with before. They will often behave in an outright contrarian, even childish manner when confronted with superiors, asserting their independence whenever and wherever possible. Internally, Supernovan officers lead by consent, not rank.
• Amongst themselves, Supernovas have a jovial, flippant attitude. They will often mock each other, make jokes and insults, and generally behave in a manner not normally associated with Astartes. However, they take their duties in battle very seriously.
• The Chapter has female Marines (heresy!). To date, there is only one female Captain - the Fifth Captain. Female Marines are uncommon in the Chapter's specialist units, and outright forbidden from the Ironforged (they're conservatives like that).
• Primaris are present in the Chapter in small numbers, but are mostly distrusted by the rest of the Chapter.
• Supernovan names are typically, but not always two-syllable names. A list of sample names is given here, with female names marked with (f): Arda, Aryx, Axra, Brok, Cyda (f), Cylaros, Dyus, Hoka, Komdai, Lata (one of the most common names on Tasal), Loxn, Mohr, Mytal (f), Nyel, Olit, Ovvel, Oxon, Oxor, Seyth (f), Talil (f), Xeran, Ximo, Xoka.
• Linked to the above, Tasalians use surnames. Commonly, the name structure will simply append a parent name or birthplace. For example: "Lata So Aryx", which literally means, "Lata, son of Aryx".

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343820-index-astartes-supernovas-2018-edition/

 

There you are, fellow Liberites! Feel free to post up your own Chapter, or tear into mine!

[WG101]

Here's a link to my chapter not fully fleshed out but jave a few ideas I'll edit into it later.

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345134-custom-ultima-founding-chapter-umbral-spectres/?do=findComment&comment=5029004

[Isghamor]

Hi, this idea seems cool here's mine:

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345338-index-astartes-silver-feathers-wip/?p=5034282

[Wargamer]

Glad there's been some interest. :) I intend to get my writing hat on soon and take these on - I have a fun idea for the Umbral Spectres!

[WG101]

Glad there's been some interest. :) I intend to get my writing hat on soon and take these on - I have a fun idea for the Umbral Spectres!

Hope to see it soon

[Seukonnen]

Hi, this idea seems cool here's mine:

 

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345338-index-astartes-silver-feathers-wip/?p=5034282

I'd like to see what I can do with the silver feathers. :)

 

 

[Seukonnen]

Key notes and IA link for the Bright Lords:

 

• Generally speaking Bright Lords have names including at least one Hebrew or Yiddish element.
• Bright Lords have frequent supply issues. Their gear is often old, beaten up, or patchworked together; they tend to use whatever they can get their hands on, including lots of laser weaponry and scavenged equipment; and generally speaking don't have fancy modern gear like grav weapons, centurion suits, rare variant vehicles, etcetera.
• Bright Lords are generally more humble and compassionate than your average Space Marine. They still care about everyday humans rather than considering themselves above them.
• Bright Lords do not have access to any Primaris units.
• Bright Lords dislike and mistrust the Dark Angels, and despise Chapters that are actively callous towards human life. They are also more likely to display tolerance towards the wild cultural variation and frequent line-skirting amongst the Imperium's forces in the name of pragmatism.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334584-index-astartes-bright-lords-feedback-requested/?do=findComment&comment=4779896

[Wargamer]

Right! Finally got something for the Umbral Spectres!

 

Lux Et Umbra:

 

The Fulminators had shown themselves to be worthy allies. Their courage against the Tau was commendable, although their tactics left much to be desired. Nevertheless, even in death they served a purpose.

 

Tavril stalked amongst the dead and the dying, performing the holy duties of an Apothecary and ensuring the gene-seed was reclaimed. There were few of his own brothers to harvest, for the Umbral Spectres were not inclined to commit to battles recklessly.

 

He stopped at a body that still clung to life. The Fulminator was torn in half, with no sign of his lower limbs. A ruined face turned toward Tavril and fixed him with an agonised stare while his shattered limbs beckoned for aid. The Apothecary knelt beside the ruined Intercessor and placed a calming hand upon his broken breastplate.

"Hush, brother," he said softly. "you will live on through another."

A mercy shot to the brain case made the Fulminator fall still, and Tavril set to work extracting the progenoid as he had many times before. When he finished, the cutting blade on his forearm had dulled against armour and bone, and the progenoid was safely nestled in a sealed container with the others he had claimed.

"Brother?"

Tavril turned toward the speaker, a Fulminator captain in Gravis plate. He nodded, smiling behind his blood-splattered helm, and carefully offered an armoured capsule to the approaching officer. "Greetings, captain. I have done the best I could, but the Tau's weapons are formidable. Here are all the progenoids I was able to save."

"I thank you for your efforts, Apothecary," the captain replied, taking the precious gift. "We will tend to our fallen now."

 

Some time later, safely away from prying eyes in the safety of a Chapter Battle Barge, Tavril entered the Apothecarium and savoured the chemical scents of disinfectant and preserving fluids. Freed from his armour, and clad in a simple black robe, he inspected the container left for him by Chapter Serfs. Deft fingers entered the code necessary to release the mag-locks. The lid's hinges made no sound as it swung open to reveal four progenoids, taken in secret without the knowledge of the Fulminators.

"Was the mission successful, Tavril?" the speaker was clad in simple armour of black and blue. An outsider might have mistaken him for an ordinary Battle Brother, yet to Tavril's informed eye the Primaris before him was unmistakable.

"Umbra," he said with a bow. "The progenoids are secure and ready for cultivation. When the gene-tithe is requested, we will have pure samples of Ultramarine stock to provide."

"Excellent," Umbra replied. "Begin the work at once. I would hate for Terra and the Primarch to see anything other than what they wish to see..."

 

Author's note - my thinking behind the story:

So the Umbral Spectres at time of writing don't have much going for them - a Primaris Chapter who for some reason abandoned the Codex entirely. But what little is there screamed at me that these guys are Alpha Legion. Disdain for the Codex, stealth focus, constantly shifting tactics, use of local forces, the mysterious nature of their Chapter Master... hell, even the name and colour scheme fit if you look at them in the right way!  So yeah, Alpha Legion.

Now the Umbral Spectres index says they are Ultramarines, but that's no hurdle to the Alpha Legion! Hence, a story about stolen gene-seed - the perfect cover!

 

So, WG101, if the idea of your Chapter being created by Cawl using forbidden Alpha Legion geneseed appeals, then perhaps this will send the Chapter into a dark, stealthy and identity-swapping direction. If not, that's fine too. The whole point here is to pitch ideas for you to use, modify or abandon as you like.

 

 

 

Might as well throw this in as well for reference. It's not new, but it fits the theme of this writing exercise. So, for anyone who hasn't read it yet, this was my take on the Bright Lords and their iconic boarding squad: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334616-the-torchbearer/?p=4780504

[WG101]

Right! Finally got something for the Umbral Spectres!

 

Lux Et Umbra:

 

The Fulminators had shown themselves to be worthy allies. Their courage against the Tau was commendable, although their tactics left much to be desired. Nevertheless, even in death they served a purpose.

 

Tavril stalked amongst the dead and the dying, performing the holy duties of an Apothecary and ensuring the gene-seed was reclaimed. There were few of his own brothers to harvest, for the Umbral Spectres were not inclined to commit to battles recklessly.

 

He stopped at a body that still clung to life. The Fulminator was torn in half, with no sign of his lower limbs. A ruined face turned toward Tavril and fixed him with an agonised stare while his shattered limbs beckoned for aid. The Apothecary knelt beside the ruined Intercessor and placed a calming hand upon his broken breastplate.

"Hush, brother," he said softly. "you will live on through another."

A mercy shot to the brain case made the Fulminator fall still, and Tavril set to work extracting the progenoid as he had many times before. When he finished, the cutting blade on his forearm had dulled against armour and bone, and the progenoid was safely nestled in a sealed container with the others he had claimed.

"Brother?"

Tavril turned toward the speaker, a Fulminator captain in Gravis plate. He nodded, smiling behind his blood-splattered helm, and carefully offered an armoured capsule to the approaching officer. "Greetings, captain. I have done the best I could, but the Tau's weapons are formidable. Here are all the progenoids I was able to save."

"I thank you for your efforts, Apothecary," the captain replied, taking the precious gift. "We will tend to our fallen now."

 

Some time later, safely away from prying eyes in the safety of a Chapter Battle Barge, Tavril entered the Apothecarium and savoured the chemical scents of disinfectant and preserving fluids. Freed from his armour, and clad in a simple black robe, he inspected the container left for him by Chapter Serfs. Deft fingers entered the code necessary to release the mag-locks. The lid's hinges made no sound as it swung open to reveal four progenoids, taken in secret without the knowledge of the Fulminators.

"Was the mission successful, Tavril?" the speaker was clad in simple armour of black and blue. An outsider might have mistaken him for an ordinary Battle Brother, yet to Tavril's informed eye the Primaris before him was unmistakable.

"Umbra," he said with a bow. "The progenoids are secure and ready for cultivation. When the gene-tithe is requested, we will have pure samples of Ultramarine stock to provide."

"Excellent," Umbra replied. "Begin the work at once. I would hate for Terra and the Primarch to see anything other than what they wish to see..."

 

Author's note - my thinking behind the story:

So the Umbral Spectres at time of writing don't have much going for them - a Primaris Chapter who for some reason abandoned the Codex entirely. But what little is there screamed at me that these guys are Alpha Legion. Disdain for the Codex, stealth focus, constantly shifting tactics, use of local forces, the mysterious nature of their Chapter Master... hell, even the name and colour scheme fit if you look at them in the right way! So yeah, Alpha Legion.

 

Now the Umbral Spectres index says they are Ultramarines, but that's no hurdle to the Alpha Legion! Hence, a story about stolen gene-seed - the perfect cover!

 

So, WG101, if the idea of your Chapter being created by Cawl using forbidden Alpha Legion geneseed appeals, then perhaps this will send the Chapter into a dark, stealthy and identity-swapping direction. If not, that's fine too. The whole point here is to pitch ideas for you to use, modify or abandon as you like.

 

 

 

Might as well throw this in as well for reference. It's not new, but it fits the theme of this writing exercise. So, for anyone who hasn't read it yet, this was my take on the Bright Lords and their iconic boarding squad: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334616-the-torchbearer/?p=4780504

I like it it shows the ideas I had when I originally started the development of the chapter and as a bonus the story leaves room for further development Especially for the rest of the chapter as the main entry didn't even state a thing about the inner circle of the chapter i had created during the Herald of the Liber event as a way for Umbra to tell his secrets to those he trusts. I'll probably be writing a story for the chapter set within a space hulk 12 years after they dissapeared which will also be how I reveal the big secret that Umbra has kept for most of his life to the entirety of his chapter. Oh and also some of the members of the chapter are of the Ultramarine Gene-seed but they are converted veterans of the legions and the Heresy including a member of the Inner circle whom is named Cassiel Samuel.

[Isghamor]

Key notes and IA link for the Bright Lords:

 

• Generally speaking Bright Lords have names including at least one Hebrew or Yiddish element.
• Bright Lords have frequent supply issues. Their gear is often old, beaten up, or patchworked together; they tend to use whatever they can get their hands on, including lots of laser weaponry and scavenged equipment; and generally speaking don't have fancy modern gear like grav weapons, centurion suits, rare variant vehicles, etcetera.
• Bright Lords are generally more humble and compassionate than your average Space Marine. They still care about everyday humans rather than considering themselves above them.
• Bright Lords do not have access to any Primaris units.
• Bright Lords dislike and mistrust the Dark Angels, and despise Chapters that are actively callous towards human life. They are also more likely to display tolerance towards the wild cultural variation and frequent line-skirting amongst the Imperium's forces in the name of pragmatism.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334584-index-astartes-bright-lords-feedback-requested/?do=findComment&comment=4779896

 

One Idea I might have about the Bright Lords is to have a fire always burning deep into the Reclusiam.

It'd be the sacred duty of the reclusiarch or his appointed chaplains to guard this fire and keep it burning (much like the fire of Vesta in roman culture).

This fire might symbolize the chapter mission to bring light wherever there is darkness

 

 

(for everyone)

Recently I found a fanfic depicting the lore after the fall of cadia up to the 60th millenium(on 1d4chan). A cool thing to do in my opinion would be to expand the DIY chapters' stories including these events.

[WG101]

 

 

Key notes and IA link for the Bright Lords:

 

• Generally speaking Bright Lords have names including at least one Hebrew or Yiddish element.
• Bright Lords have frequent supply issues. Their gear is often old, beaten up, or patchworked together; they tend to use whatever they can get their hands on, including lots of laser weaponry and scavenged equipment; and generally speaking don't have fancy modern gear like grav weapons, centurion suits, rare variant vehicles, etcetera.
• Bright Lords are generally more humble and compassionate than your average Space Marine. They still care about everyday humans rather than considering themselves above them.
• Bright Lords do not have access to any Primaris units.
• Bright Lords dislike and mistrust the Dark Angels, and despise Chapters that are actively callous towards human life. They are also more likely to display tolerance towards the wild cultural variation and frequent line-skirting amongst the Imperium's forces in the name of pragmatism.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/334584-index-astartes-bright-lords-feedback-requested/?do=findComment&comment=4779896

One Idea I might have about the Bright Lords is to have a fire always burning deep into the Reclusiam.

It'd be the sacred duty of the reclusiarch or his appointed chaplains to guard this fire and keep it burning (much like the fire of Vesta in roman culture).

This fire might symbolize the chapter mission to bring light wherever there is darkness

 

 

(for everyone)

Recently I found a fanfic depicting the lore after the fall of cadia up to the 60th millenium(on 1d4chan). A cool thing to do in my opinion would be to expand the DIY chapters' stories including these events.

I think I have read these fanfics it could be safe to assume all primaris marines would have died during the fall of terra and mars (the moon of Titan Stands however) it would be hard to include them unless we had a warp accident that sent them to this Alternate reality (since canon has moved beyond 999 M4) but the reactions of those of the second age of strife would be more interesting than say modern day earth being visited by space marines.

[Cpt_Reaper]

Ahoy there Liberites! It is I...some guy?

 

Anyway I have an issue that this very thread may just fix. You see, I've been trying to get the theme of my Angels of Shadow just right. It took many, many attempts at even working out what the theme was. Their language, chapter cult and even the value of swordsmanship are but aesthetic details. The theme I wanted was that the Angels of Shadow are dark knights.

 

Not black knights. Not 13-year-old edgy batman wannabes. Dark knights. You know they are noble warriors of the Emperor, but there is something sinister about them when they go to war. Something that, instead of going "Thank the Emperor, His Angels are here!", makes most go "Emperor have mercy, His Angels are here!" In short, they are thought of as the Emperor's Demons, not His Angels.

 

The images that come to mind are The Dark Marshal from the LotR miniatures game, Black Knights from Dark Souls, Anakin Sywalker/Darth Vader as he marches on the Jedi temple and War from Darksiders.

 

I just don't know if I've brought that theme across successfully. The link to my Angels' IA is in my sig.

[Isghamor]

Hi, one of the things that came to my mind would be to make them almost silent on the field. No battlecries, no grunting, ecc.

I think that would be quite unsettling for foes and allies alike.

[Cpt_Reaper]

Well I had planned on nearly every strike force being under cover of a Darkshroud land speeder. Also being silent in battle would be a good idea.

 

But I'm not sure how to portray dark knight aspect from a dialogue aspect. I keep ending up with something that feels forced. I was hoping for a interaction between a Angel of Shadow and a more normal Astartes but told from the other side so I might better grasp how others see my Chapter.