Raven1 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I had a question about summoning and the Dark Matter Crystal. Wording of summoning is the you sacrifice movement and end of the movement phase you can try and summon and Dark Matter Crystal at the end of the moment phase you pick up the model and drop him back down, and doesn't instead of moving or as a move. So just for confirmation I could use the Dark Matter Crystal to get in close and than summon a unit on to the board correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346043-summoning-and-dark-matter-crystal/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nym Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 So just for confirmation I could use the Dark Matter Crystal to get in close and than summon a unit on to the board correct? Deepstriking of all kinds counts as movement. It's in an FAQ, but honestly there are so many of them that I don't recall in which one... So no summoning after Dark Matter Crystal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346043-summoning-and-dark-matter-crystal/#findComment-5051165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Could we summon and the DMC the newly summoned demon unit across the battlefield? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346043-summoning-and-dark-matter-crystal/#findComment-5051232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 So just for confirmation I could use the Dark Matter Crystal to get in close and than summon a unit on to the board correct? Deepstriking of all kinds counts as movement. It's in an FAQ, but honestly there are so many of them that I don't recall in which one... So no summoning after Dark Matter Crystal. Lol, i guess I have to keep reading. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346043-summoning-and-dark-matter-crystal/#findComment-5051258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nym Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Could we summon and the DMC the newly summoned demon unit across the battlefield? Thousand Sons units only. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346043-summoning-and-dark-matter-crystal/#findComment-5051682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 drat... and thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346043-summoning-and-dark-matter-crystal/#findComment-5051700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 I have read through all the FAQs except the FW Index ones and there is nothing to the effect of "Deepstriking of all kinds counts as movement" with the exception to the Tallarn ambush stratrgem that adds the following; Page 136 – Ambush Change the second sentence to read: ‘Choose up to three Tallarn units to be set up in ambush instead of placing them on the battlefield (only one of these units can have the Vehicle keyword).’ Add the following sentence: ‘The units are considered to have moved their maximum distance.’ I think someone would be good to go to DMQ and summon. Because the above is all I found and it specifies that single strategem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346043-summoning-and-dark-matter-crystal/#findComment-5051814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal van Trapp Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 It's in the rulebook, whenever something is set up after not having been on the battlefield it is considered to have moved, this includes when something is removed and then re deployed somewhere else Edit: pg177 sidebar "Units that arrive as reinforcements count as having moved in their Movement phase for all rules purposes..." then there is an FAQ to the main rules that says removing a model from the battlefield and redeploying it counts in much the same way "Q: If a unit uses a rule that removes them from the battlefield and then sets them up again, such as the Teleport Homer ability or the Gate of Infinity psychic power, does that unit count as having moved for the purposes of moving and firing Heavy weapons? A: Yes. Treat such units as if they are arriving on the battlefield as reinforcements." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346043-summoning-and-dark-matter-crystal/#findComment-5051818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 Ok thanks, i suppose you could summon and then DMQ the unit doing the Dark ritual but that is not as good. Thanks for re extra set of eyes. It seemed to good to be true. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346043-summoning-and-dark-matter-crystal/#findComment-5051833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin777 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 IIRC, you use the DMC to remove a unit at the beginning of your movement phase and then place them at the end. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346043-summoning-and-dark-matter-crystal/#findComment-5052400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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