Spiritual Liege Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Hello, I got a small 1000pt tournament coming up in May and I think I'll go with my Drukhari but man is it hard to build a list for them at this game size. Is it even worth to use raiding party? I'm thinking of just going with a battalion, but that'd mean I can't use my whole collection or I'll lose Kabal bonuses and such. I own an Archon, ~20 Kabalites with some special weapons, 10 Wyches, a Succubus, 3 Reavers, 2 Raiders and a Venom. I could probably buy a kit or two but not too much since I paint so damn slow. I could get a third HQ and run 3 patrols or a Kabal battalion and a Cult patrol. How would you do it? I'm lost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346183-a-small-tournament-coming-up-need-advice/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Quickest and cheapest solution is to grab yourself a cheap Archon (or kitbash from a Kabalite Warrior), and then run two Kabal Patrols and a Cult Patrol for the +4CP bonus from Raiding Force. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346183-a-small-tournament-coming-up-need-advice/#findComment-5054650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Asvaldir Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 At 1k you're right the raiding force isn't really optimal, since you don't really want to be throwing pts into three characters, but with your collection I think you have to run a raiding force, your army is just too spread out evenly between kabal/cult. Not a bad thing, you can make it work as Halandaar mentioned just kitbash a 2nd archon and you're set. If I was going to buy one more thing for your collection pre-tournament, I'd grab a third raider, that way all the warriors and wyches will have a ride. Here's a quick list I threw together based on your collection: Patrol Archon huskblade, blast pistol 10x kabalites 2x shredders, splinter cannon, pgl ravager 3x disintegrator cannons raider dark lance venom patrol archon venom blade 10x warriors 2x blasters, splinter cannon raider dark lance patrol succubus archite glaive, splinter pistol 10x wyches agonizer, shardnet&impaler, hydra gauntlets, razorflails 3 reavers raider disintegrator cannon I threw in the ravager because after taking everything else you have you have just enough pts for the nice and cheap disintegrator ravager. You could easily shift pts around to take say a razorwing jetfighter or triple dark lance ravager by dropping say the splinter cannons on the warriors. If you don't want to pick up anymore models for that last roughly 130pts left in the list I suppose you could do that, but you don't have that many upgrades to use those pts for. Dark lances in the warrior units maybe, splinter racks on the warrior raiders, and blaster in the reavers, but that still leaves you with give or take 80pts depending on what you take. Adding a razorwing or ravager as well as that third raider would definetly make for a stronger force. If you have to choice between the two, I'd go for the razorwing, if you're only going to have one gunship vehicle better to take the one with -1 to hit. Traits are up to you, but I'd go flayed skull on the warriors, maybe black heart for one patrol if you want labyrinth cunning (though with 7 cps at 1k I don't think you need it), and cursed blade for the wyches. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346183-a-small-tournament-coming-up-need-advice/#findComment-5054856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I like Halandaar's idea for structuring, as Asvaldir mentions you're a bit limited with your collection but I think the example list is good use of your resources :) Don't forget to report back with pictures, and good luck :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346183-a-small-tournament-coming-up-need-advice/#findComment-5055228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 That seems like a good list and would only require me buying a Raider and a Ravager/Razorwing. I think I'll go with the Razorwing as I like the look of that much more. So all HQs in the Venom? What warlord trait and relic would you recommend? Djinn blade + Famed Savagery sounds like a lot of fun on an Archon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346183-a-small-tournament-coming-up-need-advice/#findComment-5055773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 Its a sad day with the battalion CP change. I've decided to go with my Craftworlders instead because of the nerf to raiding party. I hope to get a Kabal battalion and a Cult battalion each at a larger game size. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346183-a-small-tournament-coming-up-need-advice/#findComment-5056981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Its a sad day with the battalion CP change. I've decided to go with my Craftworlders instead because of the nerf to raiding party. Why? Based on the kits you told us you own, three Patrols would have given you 4 CP with Raiding Force, but now you can structure those same units into a Batallion for 5 CP with the rest in a Patrol: Kabal Batallion Archon Archon Kabalite Warriors (5) Kabalite Warriors (5) Venom Kabalite Warriors (10) Raider Cult Patrol Succubus Wyches (10) Reavers (3) Raider The only meaningful difference is you have 2 units of 5 Warriors rather than a single unit of 10. If anything the change represents a boost to your force with no different models required. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346183-a-small-tournament-coming-up-need-advice/#findComment-5060167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiritual Liege Posted April 19, 2018 Author Share Posted April 19, 2018 You are quite right, I'm not actually sure what I had in mind when I wrote that. I did a quick list, what'd you think of this: Kabal battalion: Flayed Skull - Archon: Djinn blade, blast pistol, Famed Savagery - Archon: Huskblade, blast pistol - 10 Warriors: dark lance, 2x blasters - 5 Warriors: blaster - 5 Warriors: blaster - Raider: dark lance - Venom: 2x splinter cannons Cult battalion: Strife - Succubus - 10 Wyches: 3x hydra gauntlet, agoniser, phantasm grenade laucher - 3 Reavers: grav talon, agoniser - 5 Scourges: 3x blaster, dark lance - Raider: dark lance All the characters in the Venom, Wyches in one Raider, Warriors in the other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346183-a-small-tournament-coming-up-need-advice/#findComment-5060360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun03 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 On the Wyches I would go with shar net impaler you don’t want something breaking contact and leaving the Wyches open too shooting. Plus they can always assault something and tie up for few turns, Scourges IMO blaster and HWB mix better, no penalty for moving. I see the merit in adding a dark lance but if there in range for just the lance than missing out on over half the firepower, so I would suggest all blaster or pair with weponds ofthe same range. This way all in range or no penalties for moving to range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346183-a-small-tournament-coming-up-need-advice/#findComment-5060386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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