SkimaskMohawk Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 So far, DP has more options - Good Pox cost Reinforcement points above starting strength - decent compromise imo New pox don't get to fight if the unit already has - didn't know this was a thing people did Sniper weapons get blocked by Cloud of Flies -Good PBC has come through unscathed, though the tree may have been nerfed. Smite nerfs obviously hurt and so does that ridiculous deepstrike nerf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 New pox don't get to fight if the unit already has - didn't know this was a thing people did That this should even need FAQing at all... What possible justification would people have for saying new models can fight. The core rules are very clear that you can't choose a unit to fight more than once, and when you're at the point you start adding models from kills, you've already fought. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5056776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Death to the Poxwalker/Cultist combo. Or at least a nerf to it's efficiency. I like it. A much more reasonable nerf than the Conscript one. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5056844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I'd MUCH rather see trees nerfed over PCB. Poxwalker nerf I can life with. I didn't like abusing them, and stopped using them that way anyway. NOW perhaps we can look at PM's more. (Still think a counter to nerf is actually helping out some of the other choices). Glad to see Cloud of Flies works like I thought it did.... The 'FNP' rules now kills multiple rerolls which has been something I see rarely, but still. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5056932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart1223 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Well the tree went up to 85 points and they have to be placed within 6” of each other, but I don’t have my Codex to hand so I’m not sure how that impacts it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5056941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 16, 2018 Author Share Posted April 16, 2018 They went up 35 points each, and it was the 2" away from other terrain that was the new add Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Drake Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Overall I'm happy with the changes. Poxwalkers are still useable but not OP with Cultists if people want to do that and Tide of Traitors gets one use for CSMs too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart1223 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 And no more Warptime on deep striking Blightlords....... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I can't believe I nearly missed it but Daemon princess in a DG list can now take a Plague Spewer, that's pretty damn amazing especially with wings Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominikB Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I can't believe I nearly missed it but Daemon princess in a DG list can now take a Plague Spewer, that's pretty damn amazing especially with wings Not sure it’s worth giving up the extra attacks for unfortunately :/ shame they didn’t fix lords in a similar way Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolia Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 I can't believe I nearly missed it but Daemon princess in a DG list can now take a Plague Spewer, that's pretty damn amazing especially with wings Not sure it’s worth giving up the extra attacks for unfortunately :/ shame they didn’t fix lords in a similar way It's for Puritans who want to play Celestine as a daemon model but still toast the attendance :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Seriously that is a cool touch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McElMcNinja Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 So does that mean he can take both the sword and the spewer? Or is it he can take either the spewer or one of the other combos? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 So does that mean he can take both the sword and the spewer? Or is it he can take either the spewer or one of the other combos? The wording makes it sound like this: If your Daemon Prince has a Plague Spewer, it can only have a Sword and talon, not axe/talon or two talons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTriton Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Yea, Sword and Talon bay default, then buy a plague spewer or replace the sword. Seems a strange addition.. Is there even a model with spewer? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robofish7591 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The only model I can think of would be the forgeworld demon prince. But anyway, I'm not going to say no to more options! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Kinda bummed about the Poxwalker tax... everything else I can live with. Seeing people who bought 20 PBCs cry on various forums / social media does warm my cold, dead heart though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhanados Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The rule of 3 hurt me - I have 5 Foetid Bloat Drones on my hobby desk and a 6th on it's way. Still, I can use them in narrative games and I have a mix of gear so they're still good to have as options. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5057742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 You can use them as long as you're not playing in a tournament that decides to use it. It's not a hard and fast rule, just a tournament organizer suggestion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5058110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart1223 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 So, with the changes to reserves, does that make the Land Raider relevant again? Asking for a friend Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5058212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 For Terminator transport? What are you cutting out of your list, and how weakened will it be if it dies turn 1 are the questions to ask. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5058251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I think I'd rather take more Terminators than a Landraider. That goes for basically any Marine faction. ^^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5058382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The Spewer is an awesomely cool change :D What was so OP about the trees? Can some diseased brother fill me in? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5058444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackTriton Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The gnawmarl was used with plagueburst, allowing them to fall back and still shoot, like the drones, but thougher Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5058456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 The Spewer is an awesomely cool change What was so OP about the trees? Can some diseased brother fill me in? Maybe people used them to plug up paths between other terrain via the deep strike stratagem or something? Not sure what the GW guys encountered in their games to add that restriction lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346281-faq-impact/#findComment-5058471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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