Mutanthybrid Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Hello I'm new to this site and space wolves having just started to get back into 40k (last edition I played was 5th). I'm trying not invest too heavily in a SW army until the codex comes out so I can see what will be worth taking. So I figured I'd start my army with a couple units of grey hunters as my bread and butter units. Kit wise though what's everyone's thoughts on the wolf standard for a unit that will primarily be used to shoot and only engage in CC if necessary? Also fluff wise who should carry the standard? If the same guy carries a plasma gun and a standard then I can treat the other guys as meat shields for casualty purposes. Would it be more of a case that one guy take the banner, another gets the plasma pistol and another takes the plasma gun? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346982-grey-hunters-wolf-standards/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Welcome to the space wolves!! and the BnC 8th edition goes back to letting you choose which models are casualties in a unit, rather than 7th ed where it was the closest mode (or so I have been taught by my friend). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346982-grey-hunters-wolf-standards/#findComment-5074484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Hello I'm new to this site and space wolves having just started to get back into 40k (last edition I played was 5th). I'm trying not invest too heavily in a SW army until the codex comes out so I can see what will be worth taking. So I figured I'd start my army with a couple units of grey hunters as my bread and butter units. Kit wise though what's everyone's thoughts on the wolf standard for a unit that will primarily be used to shoot and only engage in CC if necessary? Also fluff wise who should carry the standard? If the same guy carries a plasma gun and a standard then I can treat the other guys as meat shields for casualty purposes. Would it be more of a case that one guy take the banner, another gets the plasma pistol and another takes the plasma gun? Welcome to the Aett. I would suggest another Grey hunter unit, perhaps enough for 3 full squads of 10 each to begin with. Or if you are on budget, aim for 3 small squads of Grey Hunters, each armed either with plasma gun and Wolf Guard Pack leader with combi-plasma, or same squad with melta instead. To that end, assuming you haven't bought anything yet, I would suggest the Space Wolves starter box which will give you 10 Grey Hunters, 3 TWC and a Lord/captain, and then get a Tactical Marine box and a Devastator box for your eventual Long Fangs. Between the 3 boxes of Devastator, Grey Hunter and Tactical marine sprues, you'll have enough for not just 3 squads of marine troops, but also some left for characters and heavy weapons totting Long Fangs. All Grey Hunters can get chainswords for free, so always make sure if you don't model with them, tell your opponent they ALL have chainswords, even the special weapons guys. For Standard, sadly not very useful as I don't use them to charge anymore unless I absolutely have to, by that time, the enemy would be very close anyway. The only assault weapon Grey Hunters have is melta so the advancing and shooting is not adviseable with GH. Still, the standard is relatively cheap, so if you have points to spare, put one on an Outflanking GH squad if you want. Not like the whopping 25 points 1 per army deal back in 6-7 ed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346982-grey-hunters-wolf-standards/#findComment-5074564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutanthybrid Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 Thank you both for your replies. So far I have bought 2x wolf pack boxes and made 2x units of 5 GH with meltas and plasmas. The second box I have used to make a couple of WGPL with the appropriate combi weapons. The main reason for this is that I see a lot of people using smaller squads in razorbacks which seems like the smart move. I haven't decided how to use the other 8 guys yet. I'm think another pack box or the start collecting set so that I can make 10x blood claws and then use the remainders to fashion some LFs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346982-grey-hunters-wolf-standards/#findComment-5074849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 Yea I put one on the outflanking melta squad. Works great for armor hunting obviously where the shots are great but the lock down is 2nd place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346982-grey-hunters-wolf-standards/#findComment-5074921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper_Hawser Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Sadly combi weapons, especially plasmas are few unless you kitbash them. So try spend some time making pack leaders with combi weapons, by marrying the plasma pistol of the gun with bolters to create them. Or the melta barrel and parts with a bolter. Once you got 2 of each, you should be set, plus the formal one from the tactical squad or Devastator squad set. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346982-grey-hunters-wolf-standards/#findComment-5075398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 The old Storm Bolter + half a melta barrel = Combi-Melta was one of my favorites. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346982-grey-hunters-wolf-standards/#findComment-5075669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 shapeways has nice combi weapons too if you want to purchase I have combi plasmas/flamers and storm bolters from them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346982-grey-hunters-wolf-standards/#findComment-5075685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I grabbed that FW legion combi bolter set. Relatively cheap for what you get and they look nice IMO. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346982-grey-hunters-wolf-standards/#findComment-5075696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Gilbear Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 If you're planning to use the backpack style flags for your Grey Wolf Standard, you might consider affixing it with a small magnet - not only do you have the option of whether you want to take one, but if you do you can also remove it from the model when you use its effect in game so you know it's spent. As for combi-weapons, Forgeworld do a set for a pretty reasonable price - certainly better and cheaper than chasing bits-sellers for stock, or looking for suitable third party substitutes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/346982-grey-hunters-wolf-standards/#findComment-5075733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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