UsernameTaken Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 The mod of r/ThousandSons is currently doing a survey on how players feel about thousand sons post FAQ.https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LLTXNXRI thought it would be nice to get your input too. Edit: fixed the link Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliomanes Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 "You have already taken this survey". I think we need another url, and this was generated especially for you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5077932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/LLTXNXR That should work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5077938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodd1888 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I just did the survey. The question about heavy weapon squads and they don't include Heavy Flamer in the option emphasizes the lack of the effectiveness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5078126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 https://giphy.com/gifs/5L2okTiupVRxC I'm doing my part Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5078131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zodd1888 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Are you the 10 year old? Just kidding haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5078135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 For what it's worth I filled it in too, perhaps it'll achieve something! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5078501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsernameTaken Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 I just did the survey. The question about heavy weapon squads and they don't include Heavy Flamer in the option emphasizes the lack of the effectiveness. Yes, i too find it lacking on some points, but otherwise it's actually quite decent. I doubt it will achieve something, but the more people participate, the more weight it has, so who knows? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5078548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
C@BA Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Also, it would be interesting to see what other fellow Sorcerers think of the current TS state. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5078575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I took it! Cannot wait to see the results, how many participants so far? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5079039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skerr Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Done!! Props to whomever put it together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5079078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsernameTaken Posted May 12, 2018 Author Share Posted May 12, 2018 Done!! Props to whomever put it together. This was made by ProdigalSonz over at r/ThousandSons [–]ProdigalSonz[S,M] [score caché] il y a 2 jours commentaire épinglé You guys rock! Already over 100 responses in 12 hours. Looks like it's taking folks just under 10 minutes to complete but already there are some cool things showing up. I think it's pretty clear, folks want the 5-man SRC squads. There's some really obvious stuff too, like absolutely no one uses Landraiders, Vindicators, etc - the stuff thats pretty easy to figure out from discussions here. I'll have some work I need to do on the open-text questions to clean it up and organize it a bit but I think this is going to really help. Worse case, GW ignores it but we get some cool data to reflect on as a community. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5079517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kite Senet Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 I did the survey but felt several of the questions forced me to pollute their data. Several of the questions regarding heavy support units really should have been optional, but the survey wouldn't let me not answer them even though my collection includes no heavy support of any type. I'd rather have mini-Perils for mini-Smites rather than 5-man SRCs. I like SRCs, but the Rubric squads would play much more like Rubric squads should if the reins were loosened on their sorcerous powers, rather than just handing them extra heavy weaponry. I'm fine with MSU SRC Rubrics being a reward for choosing to play CSM Rubrics as Elites and missing out on Change spells. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5079592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixus Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 What do you mean by mini-perils? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5079614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kite Senet Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 What do you mean by mini-perils?Essentially any reduced form of Perils that doesn't cause the entire unit to lose 2D3 Rubricae like it does now. Perhaps just assign one mortal wound to the Sorcerer instead if mini-Smite causes a Peril, without the exploding psyker damage, so it isn't a complete and utter catastrophe if one spell perils. I've lost over 150 points of models plus several wounds on an Exalted Sorcerer to one Aspiring Sorcerer Perils in a 1000 point game and it hurts *a lot*. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5079657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Took the survey Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5080558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahzek451 Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Indeed Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5080582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realgone Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 Took the survey, really good idea btw. A few question/answer choices didn't really apply to me but found it really well done. Defiler, look too much as something coming from a bad B-movie from the 80' and Dyno bots...well just seem odd and might have appear in the same movie along with the Defiler. If in the near future we have access to all the Forgeworld model for the thousand sons, i'll the pay the round. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5080609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Took the survey, really good idea btw. A few question/answer choices didn't really apply to me but found it really well done. Defiler, look too much as something coming from a bad B-movie from the 80' and Dyno bots...well just seem odd and might have appear in the same movie along with the Defiler. If in the near future we have access to all the Forgeworld model for the thousand sons, i'll the pay the round. Since you brought that up; GW themselves have said that they are very aware of the want for an Osirion and that the FW team is aware..... though they didn't say they are "working on it" With the recent free release of the Telemon dread and the confirmed coming of full lists for Sisters and Custodes translating all FW stuff into 40k........... I fully expect that the Osirion will get rules.... *eventually* Due to the current "arm deal" at FW I ordered an Osirion, decent little savings and I am eager to get him, build him, and enjoy him. I just hope eventually we get our beloved Sorcerer-Dread. I even have 2 other contemptors already in the list that will be his big dusty brothers to go along with him. heh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5080865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven1 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 With the recent free release of the Telemon dread and the confirmed coming of full lists for Sisters and Custodes translating all FW stuff into 40k........... I fully expect that the Osirion will get rules.... *eventually* Except GW said they were going to do rules for the 30k Custodes stuff to bring turn into 40k, where as they suggested to use a hellforged contemptor with a chainclaw for the Osiron. No why they would want till keep models like the beautiful Osiron in a Niche portion of the game with only one army able to use it in that portion and call it fine, dandy and profitable is beyond me but so far that is how they are going. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5080993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 With the recent free release of the Telemon dread and the confirmed coming of full lists for Sisters and Custodes translating all FW stuff into 40k........... I fully expect that the Osirion will get rules.... *eventually* Except GW said they were going to do rules for the 30k Custodes stuff to bring turn into 40k, where as they suggested to use a hellforged contemptor with a chainclaw for the Osiron. No why they would want till keep models like the beautiful Osiron in a Niche portion of the game with only one army able to use it in that portion and call it fine, dandy and profitable is beyond me but so far that is how they are going. Well the FW team is well aware, if they want easy money they better skip to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5081604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I anxiously completed the survey. I’m not one to spread negativity, but this Codex for me reeks of lost opportunities. For me it is ranked second only to Deathwatch in the sense of a wonderful background that lost its way once it hit the printing press for rules. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5081631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I anxiously completed the survey. I’m not one to spread negativity, but this Codex for me reeks of lost opportunities. For me it is ranked second only to Deathwatch in the sense of a wonderful background that lost its way once it hit the printing press for rules. While I do think that *overall* the codex is solid, and am relatively happy with it.... I agree there were definitely some missed opportunities. As well as some head-scratching omissions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5081679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsernameTaken Posted May 15, 2018 Author Share Posted May 15, 2018 A bit of an update: [–]ProdigalSonz[S,M] [score caché] il y a 1 jour * commentaire épinglé Update 5/14: We're up to 230 responses so far! Thanks so much for everyone who's taken time to fill it out. I noticed the response rate is starting to slow down a little so, I plan to leave the survey up for at least this week. This coming weekend I will be closing it and compiling the results and sending them off to GW. I'll have the results posted here once they are ready. Some Quick Stats 26% of the suggestions are focused on Point Reductions 23% of those are about reducing the cost of Rubric Marines Almost 10% of the suggestions favor giving Rubric Marines 5-man SRC Squads In fact, 95% of voters said they think this should be the rule Another 10% are focused on just getting Rubric Marines viable, not just point reductions Which is interesting because 33% of the responses said they were hoping for Cheaper Rubrics in the Codex. The top 5 units suffering from a "I won't ever take it 'itus" are: Land Raiders Vindicators Chaos Spawns Defliers Sorcerers Bit of a surprise to me that more people would be willing to take Forgefiends before a Sorcerer. 85% of you think the Codex has become "Codex: Tzaangors" The top 5 "overpriced" units are: Rubric Marines Land Raider Terminators Exalted Sorcerers Forgefeinds Of the 80% of responses that said we should get a Psychic Dreadnought, it's pretty 50/50 on if that should come from GW or just port over the FW unit. The community also pretty split on the idea of Tzaangor Shields. Anyways, getting excited to have the results wrapped up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5082397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Thanks for the cross post. Interesting results. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347143-community-survey/#findComment-5082413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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