Codex?

[UniWolf]

Sorry if its been mentioned before but does anyone know when our codex is due out?

[Bulwyf]

We have no idea. The fact it wasn't even mentioned during the Warhammer fan fest is troubling. My guess would be later this year. GW promised to have all codexes for existing armies out before the 1 year anniversary of 8th edition. There is no way they are going to live up to that promise. The Space Wolves and Orks are the only two left and we've gotten zero word when those are coming out.

 

I am frankly disappointed and more than a little salty about it. I have to play people with OP or close to it armies every time I play but my Space Wolves are still stuck with the tiny bit of content in Chapter Approved 2017.

[TrawlingCleaner]

With how the codexes have slowly been creeping up in power as more come out, I really do think the SW and Ork codexes will be something to behold

[Karhedron]

Most codices have been released with little in the way of new models. We had a new army for Death Guard but that was 6+ months ago. Most other releases have had pretty much nothing or maybe just a clampack character that was previously only available in a boxed game.

 

My hope is that this means Wolves (and possibly Orks) are near the back of the queue because they are getting some significant new models. This could just be blind optimism on my part though.

[Guest Triszin]

My guess is we are after orks.

 

If orks gets a beast ghaz (primarch ghaz) then that puts g man in a bad pickle, and looks like the wolf time. So here comes Russ with the wolves hopefully

[Guest]

We have no idea. The fact it wasn't even mentioned during the Warhammer fan fest is troubling. My guess would be later this year. GW promised to have all codexes for existing armies out before the 1 year anniversary of 8th edition. There is no way they are going to live up to that promise. The Space Wolves and Orks are the only two left and we've gotten zero word when those are coming out.

 

I am frankly disappointed and more than a little salty about it. I have to play people with OP or close to it armies every time I play but my Space Wolves are still stuck with the tiny bit of content in Chapter Approved 2017.

Genestealer cult is also missing.

 

If GW would have said anything recognizing SW codex is coming would have been nice. Considering both Ork and SW have justification for a Primarch or prime Ork to be released, I worry. I do not think they would release both around the same time, which means 1 is probably not getting their big release. The teasers also appear not to be anything space wolf.

[Bat33.1]

It does not look good for GW fulfilling their promise of all codex release within 12 months of 8th edition. We know Knights are inbound, we know AoS 2.0 is due in June, 30th is the date I’ve heard from several different people, but there is also an AoS summer campaign tied to Malign Portents.

 

WHF was a bit low key for mainstream 40k sadly, even the previously shown Knight was missing.

 

Harlequins are pre order next week, if GW make good on the promise then SW GSC and Orks will be a book and cards deal. I can’t see a way to have a big release. There are whispers doing the rounds but I’m hearing very little about 40k it’s all focused on AoS 2 which is a big release and all the juicy 40k stuff I’m hearing is end of year. Keep watching the skies for signs I guess

[frostclaw222]

We know June is AOS 2.0. Sacrosanct Stormcasts and Nighthaunts, and lots of both.

 

We know that Adeptus Titanicus is August. We also know there are several booster boxes above and beyond the base box, so expect a multi-week release there.

 

We know Harlequins and Imperial Knights need to drop, as they were announced. Harlequins is a week release, barring surprise updates, only release aside from dex/data cards is the webway portal, whereas rumors are saying there're models coming with the Knights dex above and beyond Armigers and the big boy knight previewed. If so, probably another multi-week release. 

 

Either Harlies and Knights are July, or there's a big question mark there. 

 

For what it's worth, secondhand chatter says one of the designers said Orks and Wolves "in the next few months" in a sidebar at the weekender. Zero secondary confirmation on that, though, so salt to taste. 

 

Orks may not be just books and cards. Lots of speculation floating around that they could finally be getting some love. 

 

Bottom Line: Don't get your hopes up, but I'd guess July or September. ish.  

 

This is all outside-the-lines speculation on my part. No insider knowledge. Just piecing things together as I hear/read em. Again, salt to taste. 

[Guest]

From the shop owner here in Korea (so broken English) he is saying AOS isn't selling as well as GW would like and are asking him to push it hard for sales. Now that might just be this region. I think I have seem maybe 2 or 3 games of AOS from all the times I've gone there. I wonder what 40k vs AOS sales do look like and if one really dominates the other.

[Bulwyf]

I will never play AOS. I played Warhammer Fantasy Battles starting in the mid 1980's consistently until they killed the Old World. I played table top, role playing game, card games, video games, read all the BL books...you name it, I did it. When they stabbed me in the back by destroying the best fantasy world in fiction because their IP lawyers wanted to stop Chapterhouse type companies they lost me for good. I have a few thousand dollars in models gathering dust as a result. I tried playing Kings of War but it wasn't the same.

[Kasper_Hawser]

Sigh, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come....

 

..... @ Bulwyf - I feel your saltiness. Not a whiff of dog poo anywhere,

[Bulwyf]

Sigh, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come....

 

..... @ Bulwyf - I feel your saltiness. Not a whiff of dog poo anywhere,

 

It really is getting me angrier the longer time goes on without any word at all from GW about our codex. The fact they won't even acknowledge they will break their promise about getting all codexes out before the anniversary date of 8th is bad enough. They could at least give us a quarter and year time frame for when to expect it.

 

I know I'm not the only person tired of using the same Index and Chapter Approved for what little we have against people with full codexes and FAQs for almost a year now.

[Kasper_Hawser]

 

Sigh, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come, the wolftime will come....

 

..... @ Bulwyf - I feel your saltiness. Not a whiff of dog poo anywhere,

 

It really is getting me angrier the longer time goes on without any word at all from GW about our codex. The fact they won't even acknowledge they will break their promise about getting all codexes out before the anniversary date of 8th is bad enough. They could at least give us a quarter and year time frame for when to expect it.

 

I know I'm not the only person tired of using the same Index and Chapter Approved for what little we have against people with full codexes and FAQs for almost a year now.

 

 

Sigh, in the end, we gotta remember despite our love for the Wolves, both in terms of fluff and crunch, it is still a game and therefore not worthy of so much of our emotional investment. Easier said than done I know, but chin up brothers, we will prevail.

 

At this rate, I will also have to ask my opponents of the most recent codex to not use their strategems again, as the power creep of strategems has eclipsed that of the Codex Space marines which are still somewhat manageable and doesn't scream cheese.

 

To take a step back, lots of people have waited longer than the wolves. as mentioned by Jarl Calderson, the Orks and Genestealers are on the backburners too.

 

Still irritated that the clowns and the overgrown Pacific Rim wannabes were deemed important enough to come first. If it was Ynnari codex to properly merge the 3 factions into a unique one albeit with same models as other 3, I would sorta understand but just Harlequins? That's wasting more ink and paper on the pointy eared xenos.

 

Sigh, and I thought with Admech codex, the days of super limited codex armies like Skitarri, Harlequin and Knights would be over. Apparently not.

[Karhedron]

It really is getting me angrier the longer time goes on without any word at all from GW about our codex. The fact they won't even acknowledge they will break their promise about getting all codexes out before the anniversary date of 8th is bad enough. They could at least give us a quarter and year time frame for when to expect it.

Can anyone point me to the promise that all codices would be out within 12 months of 8th edition dropping? I followed the build up to 8th and all the usual hype train but I don't recall 12 months being given as a specific pledge. Of course I may have missed it so if anyone can point me to a quotation from GW about it I would be grateful.

 

Still irritated that the clowns and the overgrown Pacific Rim wannabes were deemed important enough to come first. If it was Ynnari codex to properly merge the 3 factions into a unique one albeit with same models as other 3, I would sorta understand but just Harlequins? That's wasting more ink and paper on the pointy eared xenos.

Harlquins are an easy win for GW. The model line is complete so no Dev effort required. Stratagems and traits have been done for the other Eldar factions so there is plenty to copy and paste. Plus it is a convenient way to release the new Webway gate which CWE and DE players will also be keen to snap up.

 

Easy money!

[Sete]

My guess is we are after orks.

 

If orks gets a beast ghaz (primarch ghaz) then that puts g man in a bad pickle, and looks like the wolf time. So here comes Russ with the wolves hopefully

Think wolves will be facing Black Legion.

 

Ghazzy will be going to armaggedon, and thats yarrick sallies and BT feud.

I can see Vulkan returning to face the Beast.

[Dark_Jober]

Think wolves will be facing Black Legion.

 

Ghazzy will be going to armaggedon, and thats yarrick sallies and BT feud.

I can see Vulkan returning to face the Beast.

Well. I agree it could fit with some rumours. The new fluff will engage some factions: UM vs DeathGuard, SW vs Black Legion and Dark Angels and Emperor Children.

 

I m not a SW player but I really wish you receive a fancy codex with fantastic stuff, specially the return of Russ.

[Kasper_Hawser]

 

Think wolves will be facing Black Legion.

 

Ghazzy will be going to armaggedon, and thats yarrick sallies and BT feud.

I can see Vulkan returning to face the Beast.

Well. I agree it could fit with some rumours. The new fluff will engage some factions: UM vs DeathGuard, SW vs Black Legion and Dark Angels and Emperor Children.

 

I m not a SW player but I really wish you receive a fancy codex with fantastic stuff, specially the return of Russ.

 

 

Thank you and appreciate the sentiment.

[Bulwyf]

I did get a response from the 40k Facebook group from a post I made about the fanfest. I find this interesting:

 

Warhammer 40,000 Hey Timothy! Indeed, we are well aware of what we have released! Thanks for the reminder!

We're working all the hours the Emperor sends to get all the books released as quickly as possible. The truth is.. when there are 25 Codexes to release... someone has to be numbers 23, 24 and 25! It is no indication about the way we feel about an army or it's players, we promise. The Space Wolves will get their book published... and trust us... it will be worth the wait...

 

I realize this could just be marketing speak but it makes me think the rumors about Russ coming back for the new edition could be true. Take it FWIW.

[Jarl Kjaran Coldheart]

It’s hot air.

 

They have to put a positive spin on the fact they haven’t released a somewhat required product

[Rune Priest Jbickb]

Really for me the only saltiness I feel is that there was a new army released before all of the established armies were updated. I know it's a sales push and all but really why not show all of us established armies the love and then release new stuff. And now with the new AoS I do fear we are headed for quite the delay sadly.

[Guest Triszin]

 

My guess is we are after orks.

 

If orks gets a beast ghaz (primarch ghaz) then that puts g man in a bad pickle, and looks like the wolf time. So here comes Russ with the wolves hopefully

Think wolves will be facing Black Legion.

 

Ghazzy will be going to armaggedon, and thats yarrick sallies and BT feud.

I can see Vulkan returning to face the Beast.

 

I wasn't pairing Russ to go against Ghaz, just that Mortarian, Magnus and Ghaz against Robby would look like the end times to the imperium.

A Beast running rampant, sited in tons of sectors, Magnus and Mort breach stalwart shield worlds.

 

I could see russ showing up and helping ease the pain of managing all that, Russ going after Mort/Mag, so Bobby can focus on logicstics and support

 

THen each of the Black Templar fleet goes after a different Beast ghaz.

[Bulwyf]

It’s hot air.

 

They have to put a positive spin on the fact they haven’t released a somewhat required product

 

I hope you are incorrect. I would change "somewhat require" to "absolutely required" in regards to how important the codex is to play.  I'm hoping the delay is due to Russ coming back/new model line to go with the codex release.

[Dark_Jober]

THen each of the Black Templar fleet goes after a different Beast ghaz.

I'm a Black Templar player and I want to know why only in the SW forums I see best wishes for us. Saying we could receive some love if Armageddon is released.

(I love u all who still support us!)

 

Many players, even SM, agreed that BT weren't so special to have our own codex. But IMO, and I know I m not neutral, BT and SW have many common points when we talk about codex astartes, and it seems unfair to roll the firsts in the C:SM and now not supporting the Wolves.

 

Man! It's May, in two weeks we will be in June and no rumours about SW!!! C'mon vampire and emo marines received love before Xmas, and now SW are even worse than Black Templars!!!

[Karhedron]

What new models are required beyond Russ himself? We have an (almost) full plastic range and have received new units relatively recently in the shape of Wulfen and TWC (I have been playing Wolves since the original metals with rules in WD so TWC are still new kids on the block as far s I am concerned :p).

 

A plastic Rune Priest would be cool and maybe Ragnar too but I am not sure if we are going to see any more non-Primaris marine releases.

[Guest Triszin]

 

THen each of the Black Templar fleet goes after a different Beast ghaz.

I'm a Black Templar player and I want to know why only in the SW forums I see best wishes for us. Saying we could receive some love if Armageddon is released.

(I love u all who still support us!)

 

Many players, even SM, agreed that BT weren't so special to have our own codex. But IMO, and I know I m not neutral, BT and SW have many common points when we talk about codex astartes, and it seems unfair to roll the firsts in the C:SM and now not supporting the Wolves.

 

Man! It's May, in two weeks we will be in June and no rumours about SW!!! C'mon vampire and emo marines received love before Xmas, and now SW are even worse than Black Templars!!!

 

Me personally,  I started out as a blacktemplar player.

 

But me now? Black templars are as unique as the wolves and blood angels, they are more unique then there origin chapter.

THey Abhor psykers, and focus on CQC en mass. While they may not have enough unqiue units to justify their own codex, I think they deserve a large section in the primary dex, or in chapter approved.

 

I'd love to see some Black templars get rules to use Sisters of silence, and form contingents with them.

 

Any psykers they find they give to the imperium, any paraihs they give tot eh sisters of silence.

 

Black ships should be part of their crusader fleets.

 

I could see them coming back in a big way in the next 2-3 years if Dorn comes back leading them instead of the fists.

What new models are required beyond Russ himself? We have an (almost) full plastic range and have received new units relatively recently in the shape of Wulfen and TWC (I have been playing Wolves since the original metals with rules in WD so TWC are still new kids on the block as far s I am concerned ).

 

A plastic Rune Priest would be cool and maybe Ragnar too but I am not sure if we are going to see any more non-Primaris marine releases.

 

1kit

a long old rumor of a Primarized Ragnar, (being ragnar was so young he could still undergoe the additional transplants to become a priamris)

 

starter box kit, The old wolves vs black legion

(bulveye, the execturioner"i forgot his name", grey slayers with hybrid 30k-40k equipment now)

Return of the Old Wolves. Bulveye the old gaurd, the first executioner of russ. 30k equipment

 

1 kit (3 models)

return of russ

- his warp ghost wolves

 

primaris, but the rune preist bits separate to build old marine priests

a plastic Rune priest.

 

1kit

helfrost upgrade spru

- helfrost cannon for long fangs

- helfrost rifle as special equipment

- helfrost pistol

- helfrost bladed weapons