ashc Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 As the topic is titled, I have been assembling some new models and realised I don't have a watch captain besides Artemis. What are people thinking looks like a good set up for these guys now? I was considering a jump pack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius0288 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 A jump was definitely good when you considered using the Angelic Beacon. It could still be good, escort a 2-3 blob squad of infantry up one side of the board. When close enough, you can use that 12" movement to jump over enemy models and go for the important targets. It also gives him the best flexibility to support multiple units. Regular Captains are good as well, the big debate I'm seeing is MC bolters or stormbolters. The melee weapon is still personal preference, as well as adding storm shields. The bolters are quite the topic because there's a couple of relics to play with when you pair them with a Capt: one lets you have mortal wounds on 6's, and one adds 1D to the current gun profile. Another thought, at least for me, is a termie Capt. I'm pretty sure I'm going to build up a melta/fist and storm bolter Termie Capt to experiment with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5080913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhorke Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Two I keep coming back to are: Storm bolter or MC Boltgun and Xenophase blade or Power Sword And the ubiquitous storm shield thunder hammer combo I also have a flesh tearer captain with lightning claws painted up) (just seemed appropriate!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5080914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkmilkana Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Storm bolter or MC Boltgun and Xenophase blade or Power Sword Note that as written you can only combine the MC bolt gun with a chainsword, relic blade or xenophase blade. Once you want to use any item from the deathwatch equipment list you trade in the MC Bolter. So no MC bolter + powersword for example. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5080937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Storm bolter or MC Boltgun and Xenophase blade or Power SwordNote that as written you can only combine the MC bolt gun with a chainsword, relic blade or xenophase blade. Once you want to use any item from the deathwatch equipment list you trade in the MC Bolter. So no MC bolter + powersword for example. Sounds like that needs an FAQ :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5080948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobius0288 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Ya I literally just realized that when I starting building stuff in battlescribe. Good call. I don't think the xenophase is a deal breaker, so you could swing the storm bolter and another power weapon to make the banebolts relic work. Probably one of the few good FAQs to be asked. That, and the infernum launcher... but save that for another thread :-P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5080994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delta.Skies Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Ya I literally just realized that when I starting building stuff in battlescribe. Good call. I don't think the xenophase is a deal breaker, so you could swing the storm bolter and another power weapon to make the banebolts relic work. Probably one of the few good FAQs to be asked. That, and the infernum launcher... but save that for another thread :-P Did they update battlescribe yet with deathwatch yet? For mine I magnetized jumpack, but he is carrying a combi plasma bolter with relic blade, but there's a relic I did want to replace the blade for just cannot remember its details rn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildweasel Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 On wonky load out options, for the WC in Terminator armor:1. He swaps his relic blade for a storm shield, not his storm bolter - so no shield + melee weapon combo. 2. Can take the power fist & melta gun, but not the fist without the gun (this does mean you can give him the melta-fist and a combi-melta and melta while you melta). 3. There's no two lightning claws option. I've already's submitted this issues to the FAQ team :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
6262 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 It looks like they did. I just updated and vets are showing the new points values. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris521 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I suppose an addition to the question about swapping weapons, would be if you are allowed to swap you "new" chainsword for a relic blade. I've currently got my Captain with a storm bolter and relic blade and it's now not clear to me if its allowed since going by the rules I would be swapping my chain sword and MC boltgun for a storm bolter and a "different" chainsword. Then I would make the swap to the relic blade. Are there any rules or faqs that touch on this? Also, at this point battlescribe is not completely updated yet. The librarian in terminator armor seems to be at the old price. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkmilkana Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Though be a bit careful with BattleScribe after a new codex drops. The first few days/weeks there are often still quite a few bugs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Alberic Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 There also doesn’t seem to be an option for the Primaris kill team so I’d say it’s not done yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanatic Xenophobe Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Aww yeah: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 There also doesn’t seem to be an option for the Primaris kill team so I’d say it’s not done yet. Are you sure? I've been building lists with it all morning and the Intercessor squad (with all the kill team options) is available there. Aww yeah: What kit does the combi-melta come from? Does it actually come with it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashc Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 looks great! There are a couple of good options floating about, captains either with combiweapons or relic bolt stormbolters will be popular, dropping in either in terminator armour or jump pack equipped. Deathwatch work best ranged and their hq should probably suit. I think melee choices are harder and I'm not convinced deathwatch do it that well - you can make a baby captain smash hammer if you want but I don't know how effective he'll be not being from the blood angel codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
6262 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I think the librarian in terminator armor model comes with a combi-melta and so does the BaC Catiphractii Captain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanatic Xenophobe Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 What kit does the combi-melta come from? Does it actually come with it? The head is the head from the watch master (I put a helmet on mine). The combi-melta is indeed from the deathwatch terminator librarian kit. The melta-fist is from the Overkill terminator. Although chopping off a chain-fist blade and putting a melta-head works great too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero88 Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Dual Lightning Claws on a Jump Watch Captain with the damage boost Warlord Trait looks tasty.. 5 swings that re roll hits and wounds at 2D a pop could eat through Primaris equivalents Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueApiary Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Codex havers, I can't pick mine up til tomorrow, but is there any way to drop the bolt pistol from the Watch Captain? I'm one point over and really don't want to toss a Storm Shield to make budget. Battlescribe says I can't ditch it which seems silly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashc Posted May 14, 2018 Author Share Posted May 14, 2018 I think there is a lot of merit in the combimelta/meltafist terminator captain, he can put some serious hurt on vehicles and large monsters. A good all-rounder seems a jump pack, stormbolter, banebolts and a xenophase blade. Another character or monster hunter could work with jump pack, thunder hammer with +1d warlord trait and an inferno pistol perhaps. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskie Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 I really like a Thunder Hammer/Storm Shield with the Beacon Angelis combo. It gives your army some additional mobility without needing to rely on Blackstars which is really nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claws and Effect Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I took my Shadow Captain Korvydae model and gave it a heavy thunder hammer. He has a holstered pistol on his hip, so I can decide what pistol he has based on how many points I have to play with. I'm using the HTH as a regular hammer. But it looks awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisada Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 Codex havers, I can't pick mine up til tomorrow, but is there any way to drop the bolt pistol from the Watch Captain? I'm one point over and really don't want to toss a Storm Shield to make budget. Battlescribe says I can't ditch it which seems silly. No, I don't seen an option to drop the BP Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5081735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I too noticed the Meltafist/other weapon combo, and it made me joyful. Probably try my hand at converting one myself, but I like Fanatic Xenophobe's conversion quite a bit! :) Also, Castellan of the Black Vault + TH is ridiculous. I'm absolutely enamored with the idea of a S8 AP3 D4 Captain :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5082018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 I think there is a lot of merit in the combimelta/meltafist terminator captain, he can put some serious hurt on vehicles and large monsters. A good all-rounder seems a jump pack, stormbolter, banebolts and a xenophase blade. Another character or monster hunter could work with jump pack, thunder hammer with +1d warlord trait and an inferno pistol perhaps. That all sounds lovely. Going to modify this unbuilt Artemis I have to fill that all-rounder you mentioned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347250-watch-captain-loadouts/#findComment-5082078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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