Is a 20 points difference still fair?

[HighMarshalAmp]

I've been racking my brains trying to come up with some way to get my army list to a nice, even 800 points - no such luck.

 

The problem is that I've got three other Chapters in the making, all of them ending up at exactly 800 points and two of them can be taken down to 700 points easily.

So that's either 1600 vs 1600 points or one easy 1500 if there's ever a need for that.

 

The best I could do were 820 points on that last army.

 

So at that admittedly still smaller scale and with the armies drawing from the same codex, should I be worried about the 20 points?

My brain tells me no but still...

[Charlo]

If your points limit for a game is 1500/1600/6000000, you still need to adhere to that limit usually.

 

Depends on the opponent though I guess.

[HighMarshalAmp]

The opponent is me in this case... I'd shave 20pts off for more public use.

 

Edit: man, that sounds lonely and tragic!

It's my GFs army and will either ally with one of the others to face the remaining two or just go up against one other chapter - so it would be 820 vs 800 with me commanding the 800.

[Grotsmasha]

In a friendly game, 20points is negligable. As long as all have fun, it's nothing to stress about. Playing vs randoms and such, adherence to the agreed points limit is proper, and you're better of dropping whichever wargear has you over.

 

Cheers,

Jono

[Ipsen]

maybe do power levels instead

[Kinstryfe]

For casual play like that, it's not really much, but there's always stuff you can do, even if you don't like it, in case it's a more competitive game. It may almost be easier to find another 20pts for your other armies (paint an extra marine, add some plasma pistols, give Sergeants power weapons) and just bring it all up to equal that way.

[MARK0SIAN]

Generally I think you’ll be fine but at 800 points, another 20 May have more of an impact than you think. If you’d said I’m playing a 2000 point list, 20 points either way probably isn’t much but in a small game that 20 points could be more significant than you think.

 

For example, I play Custodes and 20 points would be enough to equip 5 custodians with misericordia, which means five extra S5, -2AP, 1D attack’s. That’s the difference between wiping them all out in one round or having to endure them striking back.

 

Like I said, in a friendly game I wouldn’t worry but never underestimate what 20 points can do :)

[HighMarshalAmp]

PL? Never - if I were to strip 200pts of gear off my army, their PL would still be the same!

So points may not be accurate, especially across multiple codices, but PL is a joke and a bad one at that.

 

Also, I kinda don't wanna ruin the other 800s - c'mon, it's too neat to change!

I can easily get the remaining army down to 800, but only by sacrificing some of the surrounding fluff. And I'd rather not do that in friendly games.

 

If I play against people I don't know, that's the least of my worries however - let them come!

I started when 7th was still around so I know how to get the most out of the points I have! B]

That's why I magnetize everything.

[HighMarshalAmp]

Edited to reply:

Generally I think you’ll be fine but at 800 points, another 20 May have more of an impact than you think. If you’d said I’m playing a 2000 point list, 20 points either way probably isn’t much but in a small game that 20 points could be more significant than you think.

 

For example, I play Custodes and 20 points would be enough to equip 5 custodians with misericordia, which means five extra S5, -2AP, 1D attack’s. That’s the difference between wiping them all out in one round or having to endure them striking back.

 

Like I said, in a friendly game I wouldn’t worry but never underestimate what 20 points can do :)

With exactly 572 vs 572, she wiped me 5/2 last weekend - that's why I'm kinda worried what she's gonna do with a 20pt head start...

[Kinstryfe]

I mean, you kinda have limited options.

 

1. Play with a point disadvantage.

2. Add 20pts to your list.

3. Strip 20pts from her list.

4. Add points to both armies until they reach an acceptably rounded and equal points total.

 

You're concerned about 1, don't want to ruin the round number with 2, and seem reluctant to do 3. So I'd hit the ETL and pledge some models to get all those armies up to 900 or 1000 even points :)

[HighMarshalAmp]

I'm using the ETL to get to the 820 in the first place...

 

However, getting all of them to 1000 is what I'm planning to do long-term. My Ultramarines are only 14 models short of the 800 though, so I'm gonna get them ready when the ETL is over.

Next up would probably be a mix of the Templars (They're missing two 5 Man Crusader Squads, 5 Vanguard Vets and 5 Terminators - and yes, I know they're overpriced, but c'mon, re-rolling Terminator Charges after sinking their 20 Storm Bolter shots into MEQs at 9"? Worth it!) and my very own home-brew Chapter I'm very anxious to start.

 

But once they're all at 800, the remaining 200 points each can be a new years resolution or a project for the next ETL.

 

It's difficult with the Red Eagles - they've become my project as well as hers, so I kinda want to keep them equipped as they were meant to be while knowing I've built a formidable list I'll play against most of the time- I'm quite torn...

We'll see. Maybe I'll just grab them one day and give them a whirl against my Smurfs...

 

And just for the protocol: By removing one Company Veteran and swapping the Power Swords of two of them with two Power Axes, that's the 800 right there, so it's not like they're impossible to use in a public setting :)