domsto Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Hello Has anybody some Information how Guard did on the London Tournament last Weekend? I've seen some Soupe Lists with Guard as CP Farm but is this all? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightSilver Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 At the moment I don't think anybody knows how anybody did at LGT... lol.Seems like a complete mess and they are still working out results. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I usually follow them, but I didn't have time this time Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardDaddy Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 This is best I have found to date: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/756135.page#9986322 Guard were used alongside custodes in a number of top lists - at least 2 of the 5 streamed games I think had variants of this list. THey provided the bodies and supporting fire whilst jetbokes scooted around blapping things. I don't know which was the highest placed pure AM list Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 This is best I have found to date: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/90/756135.page#9986322 Guard were used alongside custodes in a number of top lists - at least 2 of the 5 streamed games I think had variants of this list. THey provided the bodies and supporting fire whilst jetbokes scooted around blapping things. I don't know which was the highest placed pure AM list This list got no.8 with 4-1: PLAYER NAME: Cyryl Wojewódzki ARMY FACTIONS: Astra Militarum TOTAL COMMAND POINTS: 10 TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1999 pts Supreme Command Detachment - Astra Militarum - Vostroyan regiment - [1026 pts] +1CP HQ1: Primaris Psyker (38), Laspistol (0), Force stave (8) [46] HQ2: Tank Commander (167), H.Bolter (8), 2x Plasma Cannon (30), Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon (20), Pintle Mount: Storm Bolter (2) <Vostroya> [227] HQ3: Tank Commander (167), H.Bolter (8), 2x H.Bolter (16), Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon (20), Pintle Mount: Storm Bolter (2) <Vostroya> [213] LoW1: Shadowsword (390): 4xLascannon (80), 5x Twin heavy bolter (70) <Vostroya> [540] Battalion Detachment - Astra Militarum - Catachan regiment - [381 pts] +5CP HQ4: Company Commander (30), Laspistol (0), Chainsword (0), Frag grenades (0), Warlord, Relic: Kurov's aquila <Catachan> [30] HQ5: Tank Commander (167), H.Bolter (8), 2x Plasma Cannon (30), Turret-mounted Battle Cannon (22), Pintle Mount: Heavy Stubber (4) <Catachan> [231] TROOPS1: Infantry Squad (40), Sergeant (0), 9x Lasgun (0) , Laspistol on Sergeant (0), Chainsword on Sergeant (0), 10x Frag grenades (0) <Catachan> [40] TROOPS2: Infantry Squad (40), Sergeant (0), 9x Lasgun (0) , Laspistol on Sergeant (0), Chainsword on Sergeant (0), 10x Frag grenades (0) <Catachan> [40] TROOPS3: Infantry Squad (40), Sergeant (0), 9x Lasgun (0) , Laspistol on Sergeant (0), Chainsword on Sergeant (0), 10x Frag grenades (0) <Catachan> [40] Spearhead Detachment Detachment - Astra Militarum - Cadian regiment - [592pts] +1CP HQ6: Kinght Commander Pask (177), H.Bolter (8), 2x Plasma Cannon (30), Turret-mounted Battle Cannon (22), Pintle Mount: Heavy Stubber (4) <Cadian> [241] Elite1: 6 Bullgryns (210), Bullgryn Bone'ead (0), 6x Brute shield (0), 6x Bullgryn maul (42), 7x Frag bombs (0) [252] HS1: Heavy weapon squad (18), 3x Mortar (15), 3x Lasgun (0) <Cadian> [33] HS2: Heavy weapon squad (18), 3x Mortar (15), 3x Lasgun (0) <Cadian> [33] HS3: Heavy weapon squad (18), 3x Mortar (15), 3x Lasgun (0) <Cadian> [33] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
patchestheclown Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I'm a little surprised that pure guard list got into the top 10. 4 russes, and a shadowsword seem like they would take some lascannons to the face pretty easily and once those go all you have are 30 infantry, 6 bullgryn (who are awesome!) and 9 mortars. I guess all the first turn attention goes on the shadowsword letting your tank commanders lay down some dmg but with only 2 battle cannons I don't see them being able to handle AT without the shadowsword around With the right terrain I guess you could hide most of your tanks to limit turn 1 dmg and then move out and still fire at full effect but I'm not really getting why this worked so well. Any thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris521 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 More than just the fact that it's 4 Russes and a Shadowsword, it's 4 Russes and a shadowsword heavily kitted out which I think a lot of people try to avoid. Do/did they publish which armies they were facing? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardDaddy Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I have linked the link above without verifying it by the way. Its just the only info I've found to date. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkmilkana Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I would assume that 5 T8 models simply was too much for the anti tank of some of his opponents. Also, he has quite a bit of plasma on those russes in case the shadowsword gets taken out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 My guard did terribly but I was in the special elite pretty terrain club* so won't be on the lists. *aka the narrative event Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuardDaddy Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Standing back from all the lists the variety is great - my personal takeaway is that this is a sign of a healthy edition of 40k Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviler Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Pure guard came third as well. Catachan brigade list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I know the Colonel from TTT stated that he lost the first two games and won the last four if I remember correctly. He said this on their facebook update. He had 9 Basilisks. Why is Colonel not pronounced Colon-el? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Pure guard came third as well. Catachan brigade list.No, the list is not "pure" IG. The player is NOVAcon founder Mike Brandt. His list is: PLAYER NAME: Mike Brandt ARMY FACTION: Astra Militarum <Catachan>, Blood Angels, Adeptus Custodes TOTAL COMMAND POINTS: 21 TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000 pts Brigade Detachment, <Catachan> [1097 Points] +12 CP HQ1: Colonel “Iron Hand” Straken (75), Wargear Included in Cost: Plasma Pistol, Shotgun, Frag Grenades, Krak Grenades, Bionic Arm with Devil’s Claw - [75pts] HQ2: Company Commander (30), WARLORD, Chainsword (0), Boltgun (1), Frag Grenades (0), Kurov’s Aquila (Free Relic) - [31pts] HQ3: Company Commander (30), Laspistol (0), Power Fist (8), Frag Grenades (0) - [38pts] TROOP1 (Infantry Squad): 9 Guardsmen (36), Lasguns (0), Frag Grenades (0); 1 Sergeant (4), Chainsword (0), Laspistol (0) - [40pts] TROOP2 (Infantry Squad): 9 Guardsmen (36), Lasguns (0), Frag Grenades (0); 1 Sergeant (4), Chainsword (0), Laspistol (0) - [40pts] TROOP3 (Infantry Squad): 9 Guardsmen (36), Lasguns (0), Frag Grenades (0); 1 Sergeant (4), Chainsword (0), Laspistol (0) - [40pts] TROOP4 (Infantry Squad): 9 Guardsmen (36), Lasguns (0), Frag Grenades (0); 1 Sergeant (4), Chainsword (0), Laspistol (0) - [40pts] TROOP5 (Infantry Squad): 9 Guardsmen (36), Lasguns (0), Frag Grenades (0); 1 Sergeant (4), Chainsword (0), Laspistol (0) - [40pts] TROOP6 (Infantry Squad): 9 Guardsmen (36), Lasguns (0), Frag Grenades (0); 1 Sergeant (4), Chainsword (0), Laspistol (0) - [40pts] TROOP7 (Infantry Squad): 9 Guardsmen (36), Lasguns (0), Frag Grenades (0); 1 Sergeant (4), Chainsword (0), Laspistol (0), Frag Grenades (0); Heavy Weapon Team w/ Mortar (5), Lasgun (0), Frag Grenades (0) - [45pts] TROOP8 (Infantry Squad): 9 Guardsmen (36), Lasguns (0), Frag Grenades (0); 1 Sergeant (4), Chainsword (0), Laspistol (0), Frag Grenades (0); Heavy Weapon Team w/ Mortar (5), Lasgun (0), Frag Grenades (0) - [45pts] ELITE1: Platoon Commander (20), Laspistol (0), Power Sword (4), Frag Grenades (0) - [24pts] ELITE2: Platoon Commander (20), Laspistol (0), Power Fist (8), Frag Grenades (0) - [28pts] ELITE3: Ministorum Priest (35), Autogun (0), Chainsword (0), Laspistol (0), Frag Grenades (0), Krak Grenades (0) - [35pts] FAST1: Scout Sentinel (35), Multilaser (10) - [45pts] FAST2: Scout Sentinel (35), Multilaser (10) - [45pts] FAST3: Scout Sentinel (35), Multilaser (10) - [45pts] HEAVY1 (Heavy Weapons Squad): 3 Heavy Weapons Teams (18), Mortars (15), Lasguns (0), Frag Grenades (0) - [33pts] HEAVY2 (Heavy Weapons Squad): 3 Heavy Weapons Teams (18), Mortars (15), Lasguns (0) Frag Grenades (0) - [33pts] HEAVY3 (Heavy Weapons Squad): 3 Heavy Weapons Teams (18), Mortars (15), Lasguns (0) Frag Grenades (0) - [33pts] DEDICATED TRANSPORT1: Taurox (50), 2 Autocannons (24), Storm Bolter (2) - [76pts] DEDICATED TRANSPORT2: Taurox (50), 2 Autocannons (24), Storm Bolter (2) - [76pts] DEDICATED TRANSPORT3: Taurox (50), 2 Autocannons (24), Storm Bolter (2) - [76pts] DEDICATED TRANSPORT4: Taurox (50), 2 Autocannons (24) - [74pts] Battalion Detachment, Blood Angels [423 Points] +5 CP HQ1: Captain with Jump Pack (93), Thunder Hammer (21), Storm Shield (15), Bolt Pistol (0), Frag Grenades (0), Krak Grenades (0) - [129pts] HQ2: Captain with Jump Pack (93), Thunder Hammer (21), Storm Shield (15), Bolt Pistol (0), Frag Grenades (0), Krak Grenades (0) - [129pts] TROOP1 (Scout Squad): 4 Scouts (44), Boltguns (0), Bolt Pistol (0), Frag Grenades (0), Krak Grenades (0); Scout Sergeant (11), Combat Knife (0), Chainsword (0), Frag Grenades (0), Krak Grenades (0) - [55pts] TROOP2 (Scout Squad): 4 Scouts (44), Boltguns (0), Bolt Pistol (0), Frag Grenades (0), Krak Grenades (0); Scout Sergeant (11), Combat Knife (0), Chainsword (0), Frag Grenades (0), Krak Grenades (0) - [55pts] TROOP3 (Scout Squad): 4 Scouts (44), Boltguns (0), Bolt Pistol (0), Frag Grenades (0), Krak Grenades (0); Scout Sergeant (11), Combat Knife (0), Chainsword (0), Frag Grenades (0), Krak Grenades (0) - [55pts] Supreme Command Detachment, Adeptus Custodes [480 Points] +1 CP HQ1: Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike (150), Hurricane Bolter (10), Interceptor Lance (0) - [160pts] HQ2: Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike (150), Hurricane Bolter (10), Interceptor Lance (0) - [160pts] HQ3: Shield-Captain on Dawneagle Jetbike (150), Hurricane Bolter (10), Interceptor Lance (0) - [160pts] Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmic66 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 I was running 5 Russ, wyverns + shadowsword list and toweling people up. That much t8 is really hard to deal with. Especially when they have the reach to smash your At from across the board. I've transitioned to triple superheavies with batallion in a crassus. Same strength regarding toughness, but can't be bogged in melee. Super cp efficient too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Reminder if we're posting these lists the upgrade costs should be removed per forum rules :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347523-guard-on-the-london-gt-2018/#findComment-5088915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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