9x19 Parabellum Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Q1: Can a single model shoot both a Tremor Tempest and a Hellfire Shell stratagem in the same shooting phase. I actually don't see anything in the main rulebook explicitly stating that a weapon can never be used more than once in the same phase. (a gun can be fired multiple times in an enemy's charge phase, for example, as overwatch). Thus it seems to me that a single gun can be used to shoot both Tremor and Hellfire Shells. Q2: Assuming it can, I would argue each separate stratagem requires its own "to hit" roll, as they are each adjudicated as separate attacks, and not combined into a single super attack. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347607-combine-tempest-hellfire-shells/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinus Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 did you mean tempest shells? Tremor shells are for SM Thunderfires I believe. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347607-combine-tempest-hellfire-shells/#findComment-5090804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostick Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Assuming you mean Tempest Shells, what model can take both a heavy bolter and a weapon that can fire SIA? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347607-combine-tempest-hellfire-shells/#findComment-5090813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinus Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 And even in an overwatch scenario, wasting CPs on the off chance you get a 6 isn't worth it. DW need all their CPs and have to be efficient with how they spend them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347607-combine-tempest-hellfire-shells/#findComment-5090819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 did you mean tempest shells? Tremor shells are for SM Thunderfires I believe. Yes, sorry, changed the wording. Assuming you mean Tempest Shells, what model can take both a heavy bolter and a weapon that can fire SIA? I don't know. My opponent last night asked me if I knew whether or not he could do that. I assumed any other pre-reqs were/had already been met. And even in an overwatch scenario, wasting CPs on the off chance you get a 6 isn't worth it. DW need all their CPs and have to be efficient with how they spend them. Understood, but that wasn't really the question. The question is/was "can you elect to do it". I'm not a Deathwatch player, here, guys. I'm asking on behalf of someone who is. Thanks! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347607-combine-tempest-hellfire-shells/#findComment-5090892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostick Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 AFAIK, there is no model that can take both, so it's not even possible to begin with. The Veteran is the only model that can take a HB, and they cannot have a boltgun(or any variant) or bolt pistol if they take a HB. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347607-combine-tempest-hellfire-shells/#findComment-5090899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinus Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 The only scenario I can see him doing it is with a HB vet firing once against something that failed its charge and then firing again with the other card at something else that charges him. But as I pointed out, not worth wasting CPs on that. Plus 3 HB shots using SIA twice has a better chance of hitting and causing damage than both those stratagems. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347607-combine-tempest-hellfire-shells/#findComment-5090928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 The only scenario I can see him doing it is with a HB vet firing once against something that failed its charge and then firing again with the other card at something else that charges him. But as I pointed out, not worth wasting CPs on that. Plus 3 HB shots using SIA twice has a better chance of hitting and causing damage than both those stratagems. HBs can't fire SIA Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347607-combine-tempest-hellfire-shells/#findComment-5091014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulinus Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 True enough. My mistake. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347607-combine-tempest-hellfire-shells/#findComment-5091031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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