Ceranidian Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 So I've been thinking a bit about how I want to expand my army, and I feel like what is missing is a proper centrepiece. I feel it would add a lot, both in terms of gameplay and aesthetics. It also has the benefit of being more interesting to build and paint than 10 more vets with storm bolters. Some things I've thought of: Leviathan Contemptor Sicarian Land Raider A big terminator bomb (Cataphractii? They look awesome) Imperial Knight The last one is looking especially tempting with the new codex coming out, and also being a plastic kit easily available. I'd love to hear some thoughts from you guys though! What do you think a good centrepiece for a Deathwatch force could be either from a thematic, aesthetic or gameplay standpoint? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueApiary Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 A Leviathan can make for a great centerpIece and is effective on the table. With the right base and pose, it can be a pretty imposing figure. Not a fan of the Knight as centerpiece because it requires a detachment slot and isn't as easy to match the theme. Am eager to see what the Codex does for them though. I have an unpainted one staring at me on my desk right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5091355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mactire Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 The Knight certainly looks the part for a big centrepiece, but for Deathwatch I think that a Land Raider or the Termi Bomb would suit better fluff wise. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5091359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I think a Deathwatch Leviathan would incredible. Especially if you could convert a DW shoulderpad for it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5091399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceranidian Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 The Leviathan seems to be the most common choice these days, specifically with double storm cannon arrays I'm not mistaken? I guess a downside gameplay wise is needing to take another heavy support unit. Land Raiders are cool, but I hear neither they nor terminators are that good on the table? It's a shame, because a bunch of terminators spilling out of a land raider to crush some xenos is a pretty iconic image. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5091451 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 What about the Armiger? They had a points drop according to the rummer and I expect that with the codex in the next month they will get some other weapons options as well. Their size and greater speed compared to knights or dreadnoughts could also fit in with the special op theme of the Deathwatch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5091460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceranidian Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 Yeah, an Armiger could be a nice option! Or if you want to go all in a unit of three would cost you less than 700pts, net you 3CP and provide some nice anti-vehicle firepower. Wouldn't be too hard to justify from a fluff standpoint either. Could be a Knight household owing a debt to the Deathwatch but not wanting to waste their best and brightest send a couple of Armigers (who are often piloted by lesser nobles or talented commoners). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5091469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weedaxe Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 A Knight would be awesome. I was contemplating the same thing and paint it White to stand out from all the black. Only thing is, my wife would definitly notice a Knight on the hobby desk. 20 odd Primaris snuck in unnoticed, but that's about as far as I can stretch it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5091470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceranidian Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share Posted May 27, 2018 Been doing some thinking and tinkering with some lists. Here's an option I came up with that is relatively cheap to buy, all plastic and will probably look awesome on the field: 1 Land raider crusader 5 Tartaros terminators (counts as normal termies) - Sergeant with power sword + SB - 2x Dual LC - 2x PF + SB Not too expensive points-wise either, clocking in at slightly above 500pts. You can then fill up the rest of the Land Raider with SB vets and a Watchmaster and you're ready to go xeno-hunting in your dakkamobile. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5091840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 I too think a LR full of TDA is the way to go. It fits in army-wise in that it isn't so large, such as a knight, to become the ONLY focus. I was using Celestine and her bodyguard as mine, until the newer FAQ meant no more 'soup' lists. End of Line Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5091885 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceranidian Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 Anyone got any experience using LR + Termies in game? Which LR variant and Terminator loadouts work best? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5092479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanewatts Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 As far as centerpiece models go, I prefer to have my HQs be the centerpiece. They lead the army, so should look the coolest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5092533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostick Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I'm making a contemptor dread of questionable origins my centerpiece. He's the dreadnought that gets redacted in the codex entries. He's probably not going to be particular good on the table top, but he's going to be the boss. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5092650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwashBuccaneer Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Good advice. I can see these guys being a trap for points and not having an effective army. I'm never going to play super competitively but I do like to have a good army that's fun to play and has some fun toys in them too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5092679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 For winning games, Leviathan. For actually having a cool model on the table, Imperial Knight :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5093235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
robofish7591 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Knights are super cool and make great center pieces, especially with the new codex coming out, but I think something like a leviathan would synergise better with deathwatch rules.... and they are pretty cool models too Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5093560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Can Leviathians use the Deathwatch key word in a way that let's them legally deep strike? If so, heck yea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5093574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Can Leviathians use the Deathwatch key word in a way that let's them legally deep strike? If so, heck yea. Yup, they're Dreadnoughts and can have the DW keyword, so they can use the Teleportarium Strategem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5093648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Crayons Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 My center piece is Guilliman. Boring, I know, but he’s really well painted and my typical opponents always bring their demon primarchs along so it helps to have something to easily match them (Magnus and Morty). Besides, I tend to always create imperial allies lists, I just love the flavor of them, so he fits in well with my AM Battalion and DW in 2000 point games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5093876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisada Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 The Leviathan seems to be the most common choice these days, specifically with double storm cannon arrays I'm not mistaken? I guess a downside gameplay wise is needing to take another heavy support unit. Land Raiders are cool, but I hear neither they nor terminators are that good on the table? It's a shame, because a bunch of terminators spilling out of a land raider to crush some xenos is a pretty iconic image. I guess you could do double storm cannon and walk it up or DS it somewhere away ... but I have mine with one storm cannon and one DCCW because I like dropping him in the thick of it and letting him also smash when they try to charge him and tie him up Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5093899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceranidian Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 What are your guys' thoughts about the Redemptor Dread? Could it serve a purpose as a Leviathan lite? It's about 100pts cheaper and you might get some solid output with all that dakka if you deep strike it in. The BS4+ when moving has me a bit worried though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5094965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegir_Einarsson Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 And No inv. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5095087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Reaper Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I know the Deathwatch is an Astartes organization but could there be one or more Knight Houses with strong pledges to help them? I suddenly have the idea of a Deathwatch knight painted black with silver arm and a right pauldron bearing the Knight House's livery. Unfortunately that sounds totally against the fluff :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5095480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebs_evo7 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 What are your guys' thoughts about the Redemptor Dread? Could it serve a purpose as a Leviathan lite? It's about 100pts cheaper and you might get some solid output with all that dakka if you deep strike it in. The BS4+ when moving has me a bit worried though. I’ve had an easy to build redemptor sitting around for ages which will be donning the black, need to convert that heavy flamer first though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5095610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenomortis Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I think the corvus blackstar is a centrepiece in its own right. They look really good on the table top and usually end up getting focus fired due to being a big, imposing model. I also have a DW leviathan dread which is my centrepiece Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347629-centrepiece-models/#findComment-5095811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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