WickedApp Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Im a Newb player and Newb to the forum. the space marines Aggressor Squad (pg 157 codex) "Each model is armed with auto boltstorm guantlets and a frag grenade Launcher. " Auto boltstorm Guantlets (shooting) Assault 6 type points per weapon 14 Aggressor points per model 25 Question, how many boltstorm guantlets is my model wearing? is it 2, one on each hand? which makes the the models total points 25+14+14=57 (+4 fragstorm grenade launcher)=61 The model is defiantly holding 2 weapons. Are the weapons considered 1 weapon? 25+14=38 (+4 grenade launcher)= 42 3 units =171 with 12 dice +D6 per unit per attack is a lot of action compared to 6 dice +D6 per unit per attack. the optional War Gear does little to clarify this. Altho comparing the Heavy Flamer to the Flamestorm Guantlets hints that they are linked or are 1 weapon. Thank you for any help. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347708-proper-point-cost-and-load-out-for-aggressor-squad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helycon Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 The wording is that it's armed with 'auto boltstorm gauntlets'. The rules are for just that, as are the points. It will implicitly tell you if it has more than one of something, if it does. It means each model has 6 shots for the gauntlets, and D6 for the fragstorm. Points are calculated like that, meaning they are 42 points a model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347708-proper-point-cost-and-load-out-for-aggressor-squad/#findComment-5092804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedApp Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 Thank you Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347708-proper-point-cost-and-load-out-for-aggressor-squad/#findComment-5092826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McElMcNinja Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 The Daemon Prince is worded similarly, the model/unit comes with a hellforged sword and a set of malefic talons. You can swap out his sword for a second set of malefic talons. It then has points listed for a single malefic talons or a pair of malefic talons, poor wording on their part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347708-proper-point-cost-and-load-out-for-aggressor-squad/#findComment-5092967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leth Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Also chapter approved dropped them to 21 points per model, just a heads up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347708-proper-point-cost-and-load-out-for-aggressor-squad/#findComment-5098275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedApp Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 For a new player getting into the game they seem to change the rules faster than I can paint the models. Where is the best site to look up point costs in general? It seems all my "new" books (literally the new SM codex) are out dated already. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347708-proper-point-cost-and-load-out-for-aggressor-squad/#findComment-5099563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost2Requiem Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 As far as I know the only place for the most up to date points values is the current Chapter Approved book, points values aren’t on the GW site or in the list builder (although Power Levels are). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347708-proper-point-cost-and-load-out-for-aggressor-squad/#findComment-5099590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Ruminahui Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 There are also the third party army builder program Battlescribe, which is usually pretty up-to-date. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347708-proper-point-cost-and-load-out-for-aggressor-squad/#findComment-5099630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkhanist Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Chapter approved 2017 updated some of the point values. As a general rule, you want the rulebook, codex and latest chapter approved, and faqs for same for the current rules. You use the latest published points for a unit for matched play, which will be chapter approved for some units, and the codes for the rest that weren't changed. Power levels haven't been changed iirc, so the codex is sufficient for power level narrative games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347708-proper-point-cost-and-load-out-for-aggressor-squad/#findComment-5101499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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