Zombs Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Hello everyone, I was thinking about using a Dreadnought-focused RG detachment to fulfill my AT needs, and thanks to the -1 to hit, be at least a bit more resilient. What do you think is the most point efficient combination to use? My initial thought was this: Techmarine Lieutenant 5 scouts 5 scouts 5 scouts Contemptor mortis with 4 lascannons Contemptor mortis with 4 lascannons Contemptor mortis with 4 lascannons It's a bit expensive tho, around 850 pt.s., but the Contemptors also have a 5++, which paired with the -1 to hit makes them harder to kill, and hit on 2+. Do you guys have any other suggestion? Thanks a lot! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347723-need-help-with-rg-allied-detachment/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 What mission objective do you see the Scouts performing? I wound suggest adding camo-cloaks and using them as ObSec units. Alternatively I’d go with Intercessors and Strike from the Shadows as distraction units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347723-need-help-with-rg-allied-detachment/#findComment-5093455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 What is your main detachment? If you have already have access to screens and sufficient CPs then a Raven Guard Vanguard is probably a better choice. That would be 200 points cheaper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347723-need-help-with-rg-allied-detachment/#findComment-5093493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombs Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 What mission objective do you see the Scouts performing? I wound suggest adding camo-cloaks and using them as ObSec units. Alternatively I’d go with Intercessors and Strike from the Shadows as distraction units. I just need them for screening purposes. I could easily remove them and use BA scouts. My doubt was about which dreadnought is more performing. Or if devastators could be better What is your main detachment? If you have already have access to screens and sufficient CPs then a Raven Guard Vanguard is probably a better choice. That would be 200 points cheaper. Ok so: Lieutenant Dreddy Dreddy Dreddy 678 pt.s And will be using the stratagem to reroll ones for the dreadnoughts. Do you think there are other types of AT, that are better? Regular mortis are cheaper but dont have 5++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347723-need-help-with-rg-allied-detachment/#findComment-5093548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 What mission objective do you see the Scouts performing? I wound suggest adding camo-cloaks and using them as ObSec units. Alternatively I’d go with Intercessors and Strike from the Shadows as distraction units. I just need them for screening purposes. I could easily remove them and use BA scouts. My doubt was about which dreadnought is more performing. Or if devastators could be better What is your main detachment? If you have already have access to screens and sufficient CPs then a Raven Guard Vanguard is probably a better choice. That would be 200 points cheaper. Ok so: Lieutenant Dreddy Dreddy Dreddy 678 pt.s And will be using the stratagem to reroll ones for the dreadnoughts. Do you think there are other types of AT, that are better? Regular mortis are cheaper but dont have 5++ lascannon devs are terrific but require a relic banner and reroll auras to max out on. captain/LT is like 140ish 3 squads of devs with 3 lascannons and 1 missile launcher is around 600ish.. maybe under depending on how many ablatives you take. Banner is 63 points. That costs around 800 and will do a ton of damage to big stuff and give you some mileage from flak missiles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347723-need-help-with-rg-allied-detachment/#findComment-5093925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 What is your main detachment? If you have already have access to screens and sufficient CPs then a Raven Guard Vanguard is probably a better choice. That would be 200 points cheaper. This is still the most important question. There are reasons why both Dread or Dev might be "better" but it has to be in context with the rest or your army build if you want to get the most out of it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347723-need-help-with-rg-allied-detachment/#findComment-5093941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombs Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 Rest is 10 mam DC with lemartes and captain in aip and 3 scouts for screens. Main group is DW intercessors/veterans in aip. I need some AT to start the game on the board and that can resist a turn of fire Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347723-need-help-with-rg-allied-detachment/#findComment-5093973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Captain Vyper Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 aip? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347723-need-help-with-rg-allied-detachment/#findComment-5094221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombs Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 Sorry I wrote it in my native language. I mean deepstrike Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347723-need-help-with-rg-allied-detachment/#findComment-5094280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracos Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Personally I’d go with Devs if you’re going uber-competitive. I’m buying a second RG Contemptor because .... cool. and they’re aren’t proper Primaris Devestators ... yet. The additional protection of potential cover saves overcomes the 5+ Inv for me. Just be sure to add a couple ablative wounds in each unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347723-need-help-with-rg-allied-detachment/#findComment-5094683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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