Daemon Prince Marbas Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I keep mulling and scrapping what Renegade Chapter or legion I want to play and I don't want to waste any more money. Is there anyway you guys could help me pick a legion? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 How to decide. 1. What do you like best in 40k? Painting? Winning games/competition? Winning tournaments? 2. What models do you like? Infantry? Tanks? Daemons/Daemon Engines? 3. What Chaos god do you like best? 4. What style of army do you like? close combat? shooting? mind bullets? balanced? Answer those questions.. then maybe try to choose a legion. For me, I like painting and friendly local competition. I like Khorne and Slaanesh. I like close combat/mind bullets/shooting in that order of preference. I like infantry and daemons. So I mostly run World Eater with Khorne daemon allies. I often also use Emperor's Children allies. I have mostly infantry with lots of cultists and zerkers and bloodletters. It is a lot of fun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5095768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlover Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Make up your own colour scheme then just use whatever Legion Trait suits the army on the day. Means that no model is ever wasted. Dragonlover Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5095882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle captain corpus Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Go Black Legion, everyone fights for us :D In all seriousness I would choose a project that presses the right buttons for you; whether its paint scheme, rules, minis etc and make that the focus to begin with? BCC Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5095918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 I enjoy painting and playing most of all. The only paint schemes I like are Night Lords, Black Legion, Emperor's Children, and Word Bearers. I like the Alpha Legion, Renegade Chapter, and Emperor's Children rules most of all. I'm want a balanced force that allows me to really be crafty and unexpected. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5096934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Blank Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 I'd agree with the other posters - pick something you like and enjoy painting. I find it easy to get started but having something you really like will help sustain you. Honestly, the only one that appears on both your like the look and like the rules list is Emperor's Children so maybe you ought to go that way. Honestly, though, it's chaos, so there's a lot more flexibility than with the stodgy loyalists. If you don't want to decide, Black Legion may be a good choice since the recent lore from Aaron Dembski-Bowden's series has them comprised of multiple legions; a particular warband could use different tactics depending on its composition. I'm not sure if that would work for an ultra-competitive setting but for casual gaming I would expect it would be fine as long as you tell your opponent before you start rolling dice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5097018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 I've found I supremely enjoy painting Night Lords and learning about their characters. So I'm going with the Sons of the Night Haunter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5108987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Copycat Copycat Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Nice...I went with Night Lords myself. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5109629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguinaryGuardsman Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I've found I supremely enjoy painting Night Lords and learning about their characters. So I'm going with the Sons of the Night Haunter. Bring the terror. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5110257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slan Drakkos Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I've found I supremely enjoy painting Night Lords and learning about their characters. So I'm going with the Sons of the Night Haunter.nice. Have you decided which god to go with? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5110298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 I was thinking sticking to Chaos Undivided Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5111112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevak Dal Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 The god stuff can affect the game side of things with strategems and such, so it's an option to consider. Havocs with plasma guns and a combiplasma on the champ and a slaanesh dedication can use a strat to shoot twice for instance, OR, have Slaanesh on Combi plasma terminators that can drop and give something a bad time. Typically, you don't want to be fighting unless you got dedicated fighter (Berserkers) but cultists with a dedication to Khorne can use a strat to drop a bucket of dice twice (attack twice) before the opponent can swing. Something to think about. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5112362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slan Drakkos Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 The god stuff can affect the game side of things with strategems and such, so it's an option to consider. Havocs with plasma guns and a combiplasma on the champ and a slaanesh dedication can use a strat to shoot twice for instance, OR, have Slaanesh on Combi plasma terminators that can drop and give something a bad time. Typically, you don't want to be fighting unless you got dedicated fighter (Berserkers) but cultists with a dedication to Khorne can use a strat to drop a bucket of dice twice (attack twice) before the opponent can swing. Something to think about. Exactly what I was thinking. Personally, if I played Night Lords, I'd go with slaanesh since that particular god can greatly improve the shooting of their deepstriking units (that way, even if they don't get the charge off, they can still murder most units) and because Delightful Agonies is an amazing psychic power, but that's just me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5112978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted July 1, 2018 Author Share Posted July 1, 2018 I'm very indecisive when it comes to picking things like Gods and legions so I'm not entirely sure right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5115624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 I am considering doing Emperor's Children instead as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5116641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slan Drakkos Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I am considering doing Emperor's Children instead as well.do and join us in our perfectly resplendent decadence. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5116720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted July 22, 2018 Author Share Posted July 22, 2018 Is it possible to make a fluffy Alpha Legion army? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5128350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 A note about Night Lords: if you're stacking up leadership penalties, consider Mark of Nurgle with the Icon of Despair. Extra -1 Ld for units in range of at least one icon. Is it possible to make a fluffy Alpha Legion army? Lots of cultists is fluffy, and is considered the core of a competitive CSM army in the current meta. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5128354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Is it possible to make a fluffy Alpha Legion army? Oh it absolutely is. Remember what constitutes an Alpha Legion force though: attacking from as many directions as possible. My armies contain a mix of static firepower units, infiltrating close combat specialists, jump troops, and sometimes deep strikers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5128494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlitzaf Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Just to echo and add onto others; something to remember about legions and traits. Is that there are four sometimes 5 aspects rulewise 1) Codex Traits; the most blatant and obvious which traits do you like. These can be tactical or strategic modifying (Tactical be reroll charging while strategic something like Catachan +1 Strength). On a base level these affect who your army both plays and for strategic style traits affect your army construction. (There are no rules differences is just how the affect your gameplay plays out slightly different) 2) Strategems; next to chapter trait these are next most important gameplay aspect. Some strategems are behind weak tactics while some stronger tactics have weak strategems. BT chapter has relatively weak tactics (reroll charge) but a good enough strategem competitive plays are willing to lose stronger tactics to have it (4+ Deny). Alpha/Raven have a good example of a stronger tactic and strategem. Through to note these are anti-synergy. Sense by using them you are implicitly within 12”. 3&4) Warlord Traits and Relics; These while less important than strategems and tactics are important nonetheless. A good Relic is massive boon even to armies with weaker strategems and tactics. Black Templars and Mars while both have relatively weak tactics, have one of the better Warlord traits and Relic (increasing ones buff aura’s by 3”). Is even more the case with Chaos where certain relics are locked behind God Alignment. Warlord Traits are little buffs but those little buffs can change how army plays dramatically. Iron Warriors have a fearless trait, one of the only ones in CSM to give fearless aura without an Abaddon. 5) Unique Units; Cult Troops in CSM being the most blatant example. Special Characters are another relevant example, a famous case in competitive recently is ultramarines and Gulliman (and other various ultra special characters notably Tigirius, Telion and Chronus). An army whose relevance is solely or heavily reliant on being the primary access to certain character. When choosing a legion you should keep of all these aspects in mind when choosing for gameplay. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5128519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon Prince Marbas Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 How are Red Corsairs faring this Edition? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347818-which-warband-to-play/#findComment-5134770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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