Diagramdude Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just want to alert my fellow Guard commanders to the synergy between Defensive Gunners and Vengeance for Cadia if a Chaos unit charges one of your tanks. 1 CP to make the tank overwatch on 5's and 6's 1 CP to make the tank reroll the 1-4's, and reroll failed wounds. GG Thanks for charging! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frater Cornelius Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 On a Punisher with 3 HBs and a SB... http://i.imgur.com/9QSrG9e.png Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5098059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhitar Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I was running an early practice tournament match for my friend’s guard. I threw together an alpha legion chaos list as a potential opponent for him. T1 I charged 10 zerkers into a plasma tank. (I focused down 2 units of infantry in front of it to clear the screen.) D gunners + vengeance = 10 dead zerkers. It’s such a good strat. And I learned never charge a guard tank directly - just consolidate into it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5098269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diagramdude Posted June 4, 2018 Author Share Posted June 4, 2018 Just make sure you don't shoot your leman russ main gun twice in overwatch. Grinding Advance only applies in your shooting phase! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5098577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenSoldiers Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 I used this combo on a punisher tank to overwatch a Heldrake. I put 7 wounds on it just via overwatch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5099064 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I was running an early practice tournament match for my friend’s guard. I threw together an alpha legion chaos list as a potential opponent for him. T1 I charged 10 zerkers into a plasma tank. (I focused down 2 units of infantry in front of it to clear the screen.) D gunners + vengeance = 10 dead zerkers. It’s such a good strat. And I learned never charge a guard tank directly - just consolidate into it! Even if you consolidate into the guard tank, you don't count as having tied it in close combat, so it can just most 5" or less and then fire everything at you. Plus, if you thought charging one guard tank was unwise. Try a tank company! Now that is really something! Also, what was in your friend's guard list, which tournament is he attending and how many points is his army? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5099572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenSoldiers Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 If someone consolidats into your tank it is locked in combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5099608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diagramdude Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 Antique_nova, if they consolidate into your tank, if at the start of your shooting phase there are enemy units within an inch of your tank, it can't shoot. If there are enemy units within an inch of the tank during your movement phase and you move away, it has Fallen Back and can't shoot. Always try to keep your screens 4" or more away from your tanks and keep your tanks more than 4" apart to mitigate the risk of getting consolidated into! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5099683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I just reread that and forgot about it, so thanks for correcting me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5099840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhitar Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 It was a 2000pt ITC tournament. Actually a series of them, our local (New England) store runs one monthly, plus an annual GT. He typically takes a cadian brigade with sororitas allies - a regular combined-arms style mix of tanks, arty, and infantry teams. Usually around 6-8 mixed hulls (the exact composition changes, but russes, arty, and a hellhound) and 90-100 odd infantry. Amusingly enough for the topic at hand he’s never been matched against alpha legion chaos - I’ve only seen one or two locally and they jushave haven’t been matched against him - but the screening practice served well vs GSC, so there’s that. And he loves defensive gunners. Which reminds me of the time that I lost a winged DP to a manticore’s strat-buffed overwatch...... ouch! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5100085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 How many russes? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5100101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhitar Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 PM sent :) don’t want to go off topic Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5100117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamansky Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Sorry for an offtopic but ... an alpha legion ... 10 zerkers... I love this game... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/347887-baiting-the-heretic/#findComment-5100413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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