Prot Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I started a similar thread in Mechanicus, for Mechanicum based armies. But I have trouble matching up my Custodes with a House in particular. I assume it would be a shooty one? Custodes excel at Close Combat, and need some long range punch. Would it be just a single Castellan Dominus? Or would you play a full detachment? Which House Rule appeals to you most, and why? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK0SIAN Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 If you’re intending it to be a long range fire support platform, I don’t think you can go wrong with Hawkshroud. Shooting at Full BS for longer than other houses is ideal. A lot of thenother house traits have restrictions like range, nearest enemy, wound count of enemy etc whereas Hawkshrouds is a good general use one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5101643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabstuffed Mushrooms Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I really want to use the Dominus, if only for shock value! 600ish points is a lot of Custodes I can't take, though! I think either variant would work - they're nasty bullet-sponges for the rest of your dudes. Hopefully they kill some stuff before they go down! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5101644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahistorian Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 With my Custodes I have a small gang of adventurous Ad Mech and 2 Armigers. If I can fit a knight in my last 340 points I will! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5110884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 I ha e mixed my Custodes with Admech and I find I have a struggle with still feeling like I’m playing Custyand not just pulling a Cc Custodes detachment duty to support AdMech. Since I want to emphasize Custodes I am thinking AdMech Raven House, 2 Armigers + Castellan or Valiant. I do think the Valiant is extremely underrated. But for Custodes the match up could be very good with backfield Castellan.... I have melted hard targets in one turn with the Volcano cannon alone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5116352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I am hearing great things about the Gallant . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5116440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegir_Einarsson Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 You can take 3 gallants for +6 CP, for +-1000-1100 pts.. This is huge punch force... . Gives one landstrider, +2 to advance And charge rolls, another take 4++. It is huge. 72 wounds to chew. Take hawkshroud And you can double wounds for dmg chart. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5116447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I played against two Gallants and my opponent wasn't pulling any punches either. :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5116469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 Those sound like interesting experiments. I haven’t fielded any Gallants in any edition but I wonder what your list looks like for Custodes if you’re down to 900-1000 pts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5116530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 I don’t plan to run Knights - too many points for my style of army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5116573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 Yea I don’t think I would run them a lot, however I’d like to try it just to see if it actually makes the way I use my Custodes better or worse. As I said in a different thread, I completely clobbered an opponent that Norma gives me a very good run for my money while using a pure Knight list. It just felt like too much. However I’m not convinced mixing them in with a true Custodes component (not just bikes) would actually make them better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5116582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 House Raven could be a very nice compliment to Custodes. Being able to Advance and fire at full effect (as well as charge for 2CP) means you get a decent gun boat, combat supplement and distraction all in one. Something like the Fist really helps augment Custodes relatively low strength in combat, letting him be "Anti-big-thing", but then again a Thermal, Gattling and Feet advancing and stomping all about would be more than enough surely! Raven also get a 2CP strat that let's a Knight re-roll all 1s in shooting. To hit/ to wound whatever! Their unique trait also ignores AP-1, meaning they are all but immune to small arms, especially when you combine with the Armor of the Sainted Ion: Grants the user a 2+ armor save. Would let you double up with speedy jetbikes for two pronged attack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5116767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadnaughty Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I'm considering running a Castellan with my Custodes (captain + 9 bikes). If you try to kill the Knight the bikes will wreck you. If you kill the bikes the Knight gets to shoot for 3 or more turns, which should be devastating. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5118396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 Elite armies suffer in a horde meta . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5118406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadnaughty Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 thankfully Custodes bikers eat hordes for breakfest so I'm not worried about that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5118410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 I can see you having problems with Tyranids and Chaos - both of which have access to cheap hordes plus elite units that should reliably be able to kill one Knight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5118438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 That’s very true. I’ve played against the ITC variant which I think is borderline absurd and 60 Cultists with VotLW and Psychic buffs gets a little ridiculous. I bet Orks end up with something comparable and that will be the end of Knights after their month in the sun. Okay maybe that’s a little too doom and gloom but I do agree hordes will continue to be an issue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5118515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegir_Einarsson Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I know that is not This forum but i think that knights And IG would be good combo for hordę armies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5120391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadnaughty Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I don't think any Knight is 'good' against hordes when compared to other options and, imo, adding a knight to Custodes to deal with Hordes is a mistake. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348007-matching-up-knights-with-custodes/#findComment-5120424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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