Tyriks Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 So, Armigers can be brought in squadrons of 3. If you do so, they are one unit until being set up within 6" of each other. Afterwards they count as 2 or 3 separate units. Sally Forth says you pick one unit during deployment, and you send that unit to outflank before they are deployed. You can only use it once per battle. But since the Armigers are still one unit (as they haven't yet been set up) it would outflank all three, correct? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendent Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 That would be my read, yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5102011 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialSquishiness Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Yes, it's the same as the Tallarn specific ambush stratagem for guard, so I could deep strike 3 russes/hellhounds/anything else you can squadron into 3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5102053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battybattybats Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 That feels very fluffy. Seems very appropriate. And I expect with Warglaives will be effective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5102118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 With the strat that says if one Armiger makes a charge the others can refill charges if within x distance. Yum yum Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5102134 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliomanes Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Cool! That will look great alongside infiltrating Stygies Dragoons. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5102138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegir_Einarsson Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 and after infiltration they are counted as seperate 3 units... so the threat range is also bigger due to that:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5102484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialSquishiness Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Just remember, if and when the deep strike beta rules come in you won't be able to bring them on anywhere until t2 unless it's in your deployment zone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5102516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainMarsh Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 It makes a single unit of 3 Warglaives a pretty fun addition to any Imperium list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5102520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegir_Einarsson Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 t2 is not a big deal if you have another units on the board. I thought about warglaives in DS, and outflank on turn two, and if you want them you always can drop them in deployment zone. Protect form fire is nice, and there always will be "oh my he has two melta lances and two melta gun in reserve". It is nice psychological effect:). BTW. I fought yesterday against warglaives and those 30" melta lance is soooo god.... 15" pick the highest, and 14"? of movement?. nice. Huge and nice distraction carnifex. allied with running gallant is huge food for thought for your opponent:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5102536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosteldar Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 t2 is not a big deal if you have another units on the board. I thought about warglaives in DS, and outflank on turn two, and if you want them you always can drop them in deployment zone. Protect form fire is nice, and there always will be "oh my he has two melta lances and two melta gun in reserve". It is nice psychological effect:). BTW. I fought yesterday against warglaives and those 30" melta lance is soooo god.... 15" pick the highest, and 14"? of movement?. nice. Huge and nice distraction carnifex. allied with running gallant is huge food for thought for your opponent:) I agree! I tested out one Armiger warglaive yesterday alongside my AdMech and while my pilot obviously needs to practice his aim a bit more, the new melee sweep attack is a god-send. I ran it as House Krast for the re-roll 1s in the Fight phase and it helped tremendously against a marine chapter master and 5-man marine squad. And my Armiger even survived the game with 5 wounds left to hold an objective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5103193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aegir_Einarsson Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 And 5++ is so annoying... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5103206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosteldar Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 And 5++ is so annoying... LOL! Only if we can make the saves! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5103219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushkilla Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I ran it as House Krast for the re-roll 1s in the Fight phase and it helped tremendously against a marine chapter master and 5-man marine squad. Krast isn't re-roll 1s. It's better than that it's re-roll all failed hits! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5103223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosteldar Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I ran it as House Krast for the re-roll 1s in the Fight phase and it helped tremendously against a marine chapter master and 5-man marine squad. Krast isn't re-roll 1s. It's better than that it's re-roll all failed hits! Correct! I see I mistyped that, but I did play it correctly. It also really helped when it started to get downgraded due to wounds, as I got more chances to hit! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5103230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostglaive Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I think the Sally Forth strat would be the biggest reason for me to run my Knights as Questor Imperialis to be honest. A squadron of 3 Warglaives from House Terryn outflanking like that, splitting up as soon as they hit the table, then getting an extra roll for their charges and dropping the lowest dice. Turn 2 or not, that's still pretty brutal. Plus you pop the Pack Hunters strat as well, your odds of getting all 3 Warglaives into combat just went up exponentially. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5103934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 I think the Sally Forth strat would be the biggest reason for me to run my Knights as Questor Imperialis to be honest. A squadron of 3 Warglaives from House Terryn outflanking like that, splitting up as soon as they hit the table, then getting an extra roll for their charges and dropping the lowest dice. Turn 2 or not, that's still pretty brutal. Plus you pop the Pack Hunters strat as well, your odds of getting all 3 Warglaives into combat just went up exponentially. Or make them Hawkshroud so that people feel like they have to actually kill them. Having long range melta and decent crowd control that don't deterioriate in your lines will cause some stress! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5103952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I think the Sally Forth strat would be the biggest reason for me to run my Knights as Questor Imperialis to be honest. This is what I enjoy the most about the updated IK codex: there are many builds possible given the few units available to IK, and while some seem overtly powerful there are subtler concepts to be had with a bit of ingenuity. I have a feeling IK lists (especially those with a splash of Imperial Soup) are going to be changing significantly in the next few weeks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348026-armiger-squadrons-and-sally-forth-stratagem/#findComment-5104029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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