TheUbikator Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 So I've been brainstorming and picking warlord traits for characters in my army (I wanted to do something different than always picking Lord of the Hidden Knowledge), and I really like Terminator captain with power fist meltagun and storm bolter combo. And here is the thing. Does Power fist with meltagun benefits fully from Castelan of the Black Vault? In wargear options, fist and meltagun are listed as one option so I assume they both benefit from warlord trait. It could lead to potentially very dangerous combo with banebolts on storm bolter for extra killy captain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandwen Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 The warlord trait might be more effective on the stormbolter though... well have to wait for someone to math-hammer it. That said, I just built a captain with this loadout, and I might have to see how this works. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5102640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zero88 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 I would say yes, since it's a Power Fist with a built in meltagun and the FAQ already said yes it applies to both parts of a combi weapon, which is the same concept. I love the idea, although I would probably run him with a combi melta because that's even cooler :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5102853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I would guess it does not. The Power Fist and Meltagun may be listed together under the wargear options but you pay for 2 separate items. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5102955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Captain Ed Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I'd say no as well. It's not a weapon with two profiles, it's two weapons on the same arm. They have no single entry and must be bought seperately. You just have to give them both up if you elect to replace one of them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5103245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate_wars Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 As it is 2 independent weapons The answer is No, had it been writing down as Power Fist With Metlagun and had a weapon profile with that name for shooting and melee like the Guardian Spear then the answer would of been yes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5103425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Did we submit this with the FAQ thread? It should be in there, if not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5103874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leth Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 I could see it on a watchmaster since they have one weapon with two profiles. However it is so hard to not just make the WL trait the grand strategist....so good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5105669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Grand Strategist isn't a DW WL trait. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5106515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leth Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Grand Strategist isn't a DW WL trait. Yeah, I just use it as the general term for that warlord trait haha. Lore of hidden knowledge or something like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5106972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Oh ok then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5107098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUbikator Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 Grand Strategist isn't a DW WL trait. Yeah, I just use it as the general term for that warlord trait haha. Lore of hidden knowledge or something like that. Lord of hidden knowledge is a little worse than grand strategist. GS allows you to roll a dice for every CP used, while LoHK allows you to roll single dice. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5107154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leth Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Holy :cuss you are right....cant believe I missed that......damn. Well back to IG warlord since I almost never use the swap tactics ability and I always spent a CP on the aquila anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5107792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 =][= Since I see an answer to the OP's question above, we'll be locking this one down =][= Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348045-power-fist-with-meltagun-with-castelan-of-the-black-vault/#findComment-5108473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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