StrongStompa__Gortoof Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Hello, I was given kits for 20 guardsmen, three heavy weapons teams, a Leman Russ, and a Basilisk form a friend who doesn't play anymore. I've always wanted to start a guard army and now I have an excuse. What is the best value/way I should go to beef it up to a larger force? I was thinking either the start collecting or the cadian defence force along with some HQ characters. What would be the best to build a semi-competitive force? And what are the better HQ choices in 8th. Thanks for your help! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altasmurf Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Go brigade Company commander Lots of basic infantry squads Bullgryns and priests Hellhounds LRBT and Artillery This is the most basic layout. Add what ever pieces for taste. Guard are great they are so point efficient you can pretty much take even units that are "bad" if you like them as long as you take the basic core of commanders, infantry, and heavy tanks or arty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5102731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProminusIV Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 It depends a lot on the regiment/playstyle you want to play. Gunline: Basilisks, leman russes, mortar teams and a load of infantry squads as screen. Mobile: Hellhounds/guard squads, possibly a bullgryn and priest in a valkyrie. some deepstrike/ambush/dagger plasma squads, veterans or scions. Mechanised: Chimeras/taurox and guard squads, not really competitive but a lot of fun to play. Armoured: Leman russes, artillery and a couple screening guard squads. possibly a superheavy, shadowsword or the mega-bolter variant. I'd say most competitive, probably mortars, basilisk/manticore, leman russes and a boat-load of infantry. Hellhounds have been my MVP multiple games, love them as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5102769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 EBAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is great for picking up cheap bodies, try not to pay more than a £1 a body (often you can get 50-70p a body as well). Hqs: company commanders are a must for your infantry and relic primaris psykers are good troops: would ALWAYS recommend at least 6 squads of 10 guard (240points for 60wounds is nothing to sniff at), season with weapons to tasts elites: commissars are good now, command squads, platoon commanders for more orders if you are infantry heavy, enginseers if you are tank heavy fast attack: hellhounds all the way, BURN THEM ALL!!! *cough* ehem.... they are fun to burn things with Heavy support: Mortars are cheap, best leamn russ is the basic battle tank, punisher has its place, but i prefer the base tank, basilisks are always good, manticores. Pretty much the section for fun stuff :) hope this helps Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5102771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'm Heckus Posted June 10, 2018 Share Posted June 10, 2018 Add a start collecting box. It adds another infantry squad ( you’ll need at least 3 for a battalion), an HQ, and another Russ ( always handy). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5102872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
antique_nova Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Tanks! Tanks! And even more tanks! Tanks all the freaking way! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5102875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrongStompa__Gortoof Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 Thanks so much for the advice everyone! Starting to work on a gunline army with three russ and two bassalisks that fills out a Brigade detachment. now just to get my hands on the rest of the models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5102963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halfpint100 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1-2 enginseers, commissar, platoon commander 6+ infantry squads, 3 sentinels/ hell hounds. 2 company commanders and 1 primaries psyker Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5102968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorFish Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Welcome to the Guard :tu: As mentioned the core Guard list is troopers so make sure you have a good number of them to hold the line. Then you can spruce it up with tanks or artillery depending on how you want to run your army (or both!). Again, online is a good place to save money (especially on Start Collecting boxes) so that's a good first stop. Last but not least don't forget to keep us updating on your army's progress :tu: Are they painted? If so will you keep the scheme, or do you have one in mind? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5103009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmic66 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Superheavies Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5103023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I'm going with the monopose 5 cadians box. Just add a sepecial weapon and some sword for the sergeant Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5103326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
noigrim Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Best HQ are the company commanders and the primaris psyker, ideally you would want to bring multiple command point batteries of 4 inf sqds and 2comp cmd giving each 5cm for only 220pts (barebones). A detachment of tallarn is good for infiltrating your punishers and mordia i really good for infantry. My favourite heavy option is a squad of three mortars. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5103327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekhitar Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 If you end up getting the tanks "new", be aware there are 2 Russ boxes - one for the battle cannon and one for the demolisher. The demolisher box builds the punisher and plasmacutioner too, so I'd recommend that one over the other.Or, you know, ebay. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348053-best-value-to-beef-up-army/#findComment-5103456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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