Knight Angels Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 huhu I want to get a big, bad guy in my army as a centrepiece. besides the knights i am looking at the forgeworld "relic leviathan dreadnougt". its basically a landraider with legs and a 4++ and offers some nasty firepower: 2x storm cannon array (20 shots with S7 DS-2 D2), hitting on 2+, reroll 1s (when standing still). What i dont like so much about him is that it cannot shoot while in combat (damn sneaky pile-in-moves) and when he has only one CC-arm, he looses an attack (3 attacks is quite poor for such a great model). So i wonder if you have any recommendations concerning usability / loadout / alternativs etc. and what your experiences with the leviathan are. Thanks in advance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 He has two heavy flamers on top of the Storm cannons, just get him close and shoot, even as a distraction he’s worth it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5103765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Angels Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 Is your statement based on experienc? yeah i didnt bother to mention those extra flamers. they are a nice bonus what are the costs of him with 2x siege drills? is 318 pts correct? (dont trust battlescribe here) with 2x storm cannon arrays: 309 pts? That would be quite cheap! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5103768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvnisher Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I have 2 only used the double grav bombard one and wasn’t that impressed. But it was vs Orks so he had a hard time getting to shoot the heavy flamers worked good. And now he can use the missiles on top. He’s also very easy to magnetize so I have 4 grave 4 storm canons and 2 close combat arms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5103802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakybamsen Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Unfortunately the stormraven can no longer carry one of these puppies, same goes for the leviathan dreadnought drop pod. He was a beast in combat, if you could get him in there, but the 2 storm cannons are awesome. Keeping a 24" range shooting monster still is a challenge, so most of the time, you'll only be hitting on 3's, at least any opponent would be silly not to try to get out of range of a leviathan. 20 shots on 3's though is still pretty solid. 13 hits average, rhino chassis tanks will be dented rather well by one of these in one round of shooting. 8 wounds shouldn't be off statistically after saves. The grav flux bombard is more points and not nearly as versatile as the storm cannon arrays. And if a leviathan is not equipped for close combat, it's of course some work to keep it out of said combat, but it should be doable at least to some extent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5103826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
exsulis81 Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 @sneaky when did the storm raven loose the ability to carry the relic leviathan dreadnought? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5104139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Is your statement based on experienc? yeah i didnt bother to mention those extra flamers. they are a nice bonus what are the costs of him with 2x siege drills? is 318 pts correct? (dont trust battlescribe here) with 2x storm cannon arrays: 309 pts? That would be quite cheap! Yep, fielded him about 20 times, even when he gets picked on he’s the MVP. Either killing stuff or soaking up fire. 309 is correct Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5104158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvnisher Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 @sneaky when did the storm raven loose the ability to carry the relic leviathan dreadnought? Last faq. Can only carry a certain amount of wounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5104245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakybamsen Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 @sneaky when did the storm raven loose the ability to carry the relic leviathan dreadnought? Last faq. Can only carry a certain amount of wounds. What Pvnisher said - to elaborate, only dreadnoughts with fewer starting wounds than a Redemptor can be transported following that FAQ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5104409 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Raeven Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Give it a CC-weapon and charge stuff. Mine wiped out a full strength Deathstar in one swipe after it had slaughtered half my army. Loved the big bugger ever since. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5104717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneakybamsen Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Yes, GRC, but the melee weapons are so expensive. I have the cyclonic melta lance for mine along with a CCW, but I think I'll mainly run dual storm cannon arrays due to points (with melee option and melta lance it's around 350 points or more, afair). Though firstly, I have to get it assembled and painted Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5105108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Imma working on my ccw arm now, stills going to field him with dual storm cannon though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5106525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Angels Posted June 18, 2018 Author Share Posted June 18, 2018 i ordered the leviathan with 2x storm cannon, 1x claw, 1x siege drill and 1x grav-flux. With that i can make 3 configs: Dakka Bot: 2x storm cannon array Combat Bot: siege drill and claw Multirole Bot: grav-flux bombard with siege drill (or with claw -> still have to decide which one to use here) Now im waiting for the package which can take up to a month because of increased demand. I will post pics when finished painting. Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5107655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCE1981 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Run a vanilla Marine Librarian to give him Might of Heroes for T-9, and str-18(with claw or drill) shenanigans. It takes a ridiculous amount if firepower to bring it down at that point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5107761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 In my experience (have one and love it) the SCA are the way to go. The CC options arent supported by the number of attacks to justify the cost IMO. Give him a bit of backup to prevent getting swarmed and it shreds things. One thing opponents tend to think is that the SCA is just a big Autocannon but it's actually -2 AP and thats such a huge difference. I use an Iron priest to keep him from being nickel and dimed down so a techmarine might be fun for you too. The thing is also a joy to build and paint, its such a well designed model. On all fronts, string recommend from me. Edit: Forgot to address the bombards. Super cool and fun to use when they work, but they're swingy so sometimes they just won't... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5107840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Sebas Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Knight Angels if you ordered it this week it won't take a month to arrive (i just ordered one saturday and it shipped today) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5107999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Angels Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 as promised some pics of my new toy. Thanks everone for ur feedback. The CC-Arms and the Grav Bombard isnt painted (all magnetized) The colours are very bright and dont match RL, especially the red (should be more brown) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5121938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Sebas Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Epic! i LOVE it, and i'm toally stealing that placement of the dark angels icon for mine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5121968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basteala Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I didn't even think the placement would work, given the curvature of the body. I have a Leviathan I recently built but haven't primed yet. How did you get the icon to fit reasonably flush there? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5122035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight Angels Posted July 11, 2018 Author Share Posted July 11, 2018 @basti:superglue and pressure ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5122154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Yup, pressure is the key, mine went on fine too, the brass etchings were actually harder. Love the red paint job, nice point of difference as we don't see many like that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5122496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormxlr Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 @sneaky when did the storm raven loose the ability to carry the relic leviathan dreadnought? Last faq. Can only carry a certain amount of wounds. Can someone link this FAQ ? which one is it? i ordered the leviathan with 2x storm cannon, 1x claw, 1x siege drill and 1x grav-flux. With that i can make 3 configs: Dakka Bot: 2x storm cannon array Combat Bot: siege drill and claw Multirole Bot: grav-flux bombard with siege drill (or with claw -> still have to decide which one to use here) Now im waiting for the package which can take up to a month because of increased demand. I will post pics when finished painting. Cheers You can spend a CP to make Leviathan Deathwing with Inner Circle Stratagem, stick a Deathwing banner next to him along with Asmodai for 2 extra attacks. Its not efficient but if you have 10xDeathwing Knights there aswell, thats one scary deathstar. Though it costs like 1k points Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5122941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkinstein Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 @sneaky when did the storm raven loose the ability to carry the relic leviathan dreadnought?Last faq. Can only carry a certain amount of wounds. Can someone link this FAQ ? which one is it? i ordered the leviathan with 2x storm cannon, 1x claw, 1x siege drill and 1x grav-flux. With that i can make 3 configs: Dakka Bot: 2x storm cannon array Combat Bot: siege drill and claw Multirole Bot: grav-flux bombard with siege drill (or with claw -> still have to decide which one to use here) Now im waiting for the package which can take up to a month because of increased demand. I will post pics when finished painting. Cheers You can spend a CP to make Leviathan Deathwing with Inner Circle Stratagem, stick a Deathwing banner next to him along with Asmodai for 2 extra attacks. Its not efficient but if you have 10xDeathwing Knights there aswell, thats one scary deathstar. Though it costs like 1k points Asmodai only affect infantry and biker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348099-relic-leviathan-dreadnought/#findComment-5123069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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