Tamwulf Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Got a question, and I can't find the answer to it. An Imperial Fists player is running the Stone Gauntlet Rite of War, that specifies only Legion Champions and a single Legion Consul HQ choice can be taken. His list has Polux, a named IF HQ Character that has no rules about joining Stone Gauntlet. He insists there is a rule that allows named characters and Praetors to ignore RoW's limitations. I can't find such a rule anywhere. Can y'all help me out please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348109-can-praetors-or-named-characters-ignore-rows/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Polux can be taken as he isn't a consul. By a single consul, they mean only one consul specialisation can be chosen for the list not that the only HQ allowed is a consul (if that was the case the only way to get the rite would be through a delegatus). There are no restrictions on other HQs (named characters, praetors, regular centurions). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348109-can-praetors-or-named-characters-ignore-rows/#findComment-5103965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apostle of the 30th Host Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 Harrowmaster got it first, but that is not quite how that rule works: 'With the exception of the Legion Champion type, detachments sing this Rite of War may only take a single Consul as part of their HQ choices' All that means is: 1. Only one Consul (i.e. Chaplain, Librarian etc.) can be taken in the list. 2. This restriction does not apply to Legion Champions - so you can take a Chaplain and a Champion 3. You can take as many Praetors, Special Characters, and Centurions as you like. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348109-can-praetors-or-named-characters-ignore-rows/#findComment-5103967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 As long as they are not Consuls. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348109-can-praetors-or-named-characters-ignore-rows/#findComment-5104007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
K3nn3rs Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 I hope the ‘discussion’ didn’t ruin the game... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348109-can-praetors-or-named-characters-ignore-rows/#findComment-5104057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamwulf Posted June 12, 2018 Author Share Posted June 12, 2018 See, I'm totally reading this differently. "With the exception of the Legion Champion type, detachments using this Rite of War may only take a single Consul as part of their HQ choices." It specifies that the HQ choices are Legion Champions and a single Consul. Or, looking at it from a different way, the HQ choices are Legion Praetors, Legion Consuls (and their sub-types), Damocles Command Rhino, and a Legion Command Squad (plus whatever specific Legion units/characters with the right rules). Out of all those HQ choices, the only ones I can take are Legion Champions and a single Consul. I have choices, but those choices are restricted to Legion Champions and a single Consul. "Here are your choices, and out of those choices, you can only take a single Consul". That's how it reads to me. How can it be read to say "Here are your choices, you can take any of those choices, but you can't take more than a single Consul". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348109-can-praetors-or-named-characters-ignore-rows/#findComment-5104218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 That interpretation is incorrect; the wording is already clear. Not to mention the fact that f you were only allowed to take Legion Champions & a single Consul as HQ choices, you would be unable to actually run the Rite of War without Dorn, which would be absurd. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348109-can-praetors-or-named-characters-ignore-rows/#findComment-5104234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 It can be read both ways, but only one of which makes sense. In a perfect world, FW would learn how to write rules and preclude this, but if you have a RoW which prevents Praetors from being an option, you end up with a circular reference preventing the RoW from being eligible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348109-can-praetors-or-named-characters-ignore-rows/#findComment-5104517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamsael Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Yeah, given the fact that you need a Master of the Legion to run any rite of war, it’s highly unlikely the restriction is saying you can’t run HQs other than Consuls. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348109-can-praetors-or-named-characters-ignore-rows/#findComment-5108456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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