Diagramdude Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 This is a pretty glaring issue in the core rules for shooting that I think almost everyone is overlooking? 1. Choose Unit to Shoot With In your Shooting phase you can shoot with models armed with ranged weapons. First, you must pick one of your units to shoot with. You may not pick a unit that Advanced or Fell Back this turn, or a unit that is within 1" of an enemy unit. Unless otherwise stated, each model in the unit attacks with all of the ranged weapons it is armed with. After all of the unit’s models have fired, you can choose another unit to shoot with, until all eligible units that you want to shoot with have done so. It would seem then that if any vehicle with a hunter killer missile wants to shoot its weapons on turn 1, that it is required to shoot ALL of its weapons, including any hunter killers. Thoughts? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348200-do-hunter-killers-have-to-fire-first-turn/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
tychobi Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Raw possibly. Rai and in practice fire when you want to as a legal shot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348200-do-hunter-killers-have-to-fire-first-turn/#findComment-5105886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenSoldiers Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I would say no because a hunter killer missile is listed as “vehicle equipment” and not a ranged weapon. It’s equpiment that you elect to use to make a shooting attack. It’s not listed as a “ranged weapon”. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348200-do-hunter-killers-have-to-fire-first-turn/#findComment-5106524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileposter Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 There's also the "unless otherwise stated". I state that my Knight is not firing all of its weapons. Done. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348200-do-hunter-killers-have-to-fire-first-turn/#findComment-5106873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenSoldiers Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Also of HK note: No where does it say 1 HK per tank only, or only 1 per round. At 1500 points Pask can take approximately 160ish missiles Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348200-do-hunter-killers-have-to-fire-first-turn/#findComment-5107975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluflash Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 LRBT does say "Any model may take a hunter killer missile". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348200-do-hunter-killers-have-to-fire-first-turn/#findComment-5107993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallenSoldiers Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Not in my Codex.. Simply says “any model may take items from the vehicle equipment list” Vehicle equipment list says: “Hunter-killer missile” Now the Baneblade chassis do specially say A HK missile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348200-do-hunter-killers-have-to-fire-first-turn/#findComment-5108000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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