hermanista Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 New rules have just landed for Peltasts/Hoplite/Termite in 40k!!! We got a transport!!!! https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Downloads//warhammer_40000_termite_assault_drill_en.pdf https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Downloads//warhammer_40000_secutarii_hoplites_en.pdf https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Downloads//warhammer_40000_secutarii_peltasts_en.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 What?!?!?! Literally last week the head of Forge World told me: 'Nope'. Amazing! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5105925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Nice! Quick links for the lazy: Hoplites: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Downloads//warhammer_40000_secutarii_hoplites_en.pdf Peltasts https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Downloads//warhammer_40000_secutarii_peltasts_en.pdf Drill: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Downloads//warhammer_40000_termite_assault_drill_en.pdf Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5105926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 * furious reading * ARghhhh .... i need hoplites and i want to stick them in termites. How much will the world hate me if I buy these http://www.manticgames.com/mantic-shop/warpath/veer-myn/product/tunneller.html instead of the forge world ones, Obviously I'm not going to be taking them to Sanctioned events. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5105947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 !!!!!!!!!!!!! GLORIOUS DAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Praise be to the Omnissiah! They even added the rules to stop them from ruining Dogmas in Detachments - incredible. So what do we think rules wise? Termite A Transport for Ad Mech. GLORIOUS. 12 Models is enough for 10 Vanguard and a Dominus caddy, or a lot of nasty Zzappy bois. Hoplites S3 is too low for an Arc Lance in melee IMO, but otherwise seem nice. 2A on the profile is a welcome surprise too. Good candidate for Termite to hunt weaker vehicles. Peltasts Slightly better Vanguard that go up to units of 20. Hammershot needs D2, even if it comes at a little more cost in points IMO. Until you get to 12" away Vanguard are actually better though. Blind Barrage is okay but kinda pointless as they can only target themselves...? Also don't see the point of Ignis. Overall though, very nice! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5105950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinion Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I think the Arc Lance is supposed to be S+3, do any other melee weapons just state Strength? Would also fit the shooting being S6 too, along with the vehicle damage rule as evidence Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5105953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I think the Arc Lance is supposed to be S+3, do any other melee weapons just state Strength? Would also fit the shooting being S6 too, along with the vehicle damage rule as evidence I can think of a couple of examples of fixed strength melee weapons. The Tyranids bone mace and the Corpuscarii gauntlets come to mind. Does anybody knows their rules from Horus Heresy? It could give us a hint on the intended rule. S+3 DOES sound more logical. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5105955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialSquishiness Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 An Arc Maul is S +3 isn't it? Would make sense that the lance would be the same. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5105956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Str 3 on a weapon that is essentially designed to take on vehicles is... somewhat silly in it's level of redundancy, to say the least. I suspect common sense tells us all we need to know here. But then, common sense is in short supply at GW at times - and sadly we'll be stuck with it how it is unless they update the sheet. This is probably worth an email really. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5105976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 In Heresy the Arc Lance is: Melee - S+1, AP4, Concussive, Haywire Range - S5, AP5, Assault 1, Haywire So we got a point of strength in shooting, Comparable AP and Haywire represented. Concussive is a dead rule so no matter. Yeah, the strength is a little off. I suppose the point is in melee they poke out, D3 damage means anything that does get through hurts and they have a 4++ with a mortal wound mechanic to wear down attackers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5105978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 It is a shame the Secutarii do not get a FW Dogma... 20 Hoplites with Metallica would have been cool runing up the board. Termite looks solid, but I would have prefered a "normal" transport with a movement of 10" or higher. This thing is kind of slow after diging out of the ground. Peltasts are flexible with the 3 modes of fire. I like the hammershots against MEQ, the Flechette burster is a nice thing when in RF range (a full unit will shoot 80 shots, hitting on 3s, rerolling 1 with canticle!). Ignis blaze might be helpfull sometimes... maybe. Blind Barrage can be usefull if you need them to survive on an objective. Other than that I cant see a reason to skip shooting. To be honest I think Vanguard are the go to most of the time. Against MEQ we already have Phosphor and Destroyer. Against hored they need to get in RF range to be better than Vanguard (without the chance of dealing 2 wounds). The only selling point for me is the 5++, but therefor you skip your Dogma. And now the Hoplites: It is emberassing that they release only 3 datasheets and there seems to be a mistake in it. S3 can't be intendet for the CC profile, you would need 6es to hurt most AVs which makes the special rule pretty useless. If the CC profile is S6 as well I think they are very good. A bigger unit can realy hurt stuff. 2 attacks per model, hitting on 3s, possible reroll 1 for Canticle, wounding GEQ on 2s with AP -1 is nothing to sneeze at. Because of the D3 damage and the number of attacks AVs need to be careful as well. And not to forget: They can tie up enemy units in CC pretty good thanks to the 4++. For both Secutarii units you must consider moral when running 20 models. So all in all nothing realy game changing, but it is nice to get more options since Ad Mech got a little boring. Last week Knights, now Mechanicum... thats what I call motivation. Praise the Omnissiah! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5105982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 More 40k Volkite woooooo Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Blocks of 20 models will be very fun. I've got 10 Skitarii on Sprue to build so will pick up an upgrade pack from WHW next week... WHICH ONE DO I CHOOSE?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Blocks of 20 models will be very fun. I've got 10 Skitarii on Sprue to build so will pick up an upgrade pack from WHW next week... WHICH ONE DO I CHOOSE?! Hoplites look way cooler Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Well, Volkite without the Volkite, anyway. No bonus hits. Hoplites look fun. Termite looks good, are the very least because it's a transport. Peltasts look like the weakest of them. I guess if you have a ton of LoS blocking terrain they would be good? On a first read I thought their shooting profiles were separate weapons, being able to choose isn't bad though. I could see using some in light of that, if only for versatility. I'm now wishing I'd had the foresight to buy a hoplite upgrade pack when I bought my leviathans two weeks ago... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vel'Cona Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 More 40k Volkite woooooo This is the first thing I noticed! CHOOM IN THE NAME OF THE OMNISSIAH!!! :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinion Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Theyve already changed the Lance to be S+3 in melee, praise the Omnissiah! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Blocks of 20 models will be very fun. I've got 10 Skitarii on Sprue to build so will pick up an upgrade pack from WHW next week... WHICH ONE DO I CHOOSE?! Hoplites look way cooler Theyve already changed the Lance to be S+3 in melee, praise the Omnissiah! HOPLITES IT IS! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthaside Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Sadly this wasnt quite the transport option we needed .... but it was the transport option we deserved ... Does anyone else see it having some serious teeth in the combat phase to support the hoplite charge That big drill .. Is a beast .... See that predator ....BRRrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRR * Glorious sound of drilling * no you really don't 1cp to change canticle to re-roll 1's in the fight phase , 6 attacks hitting on 4's wounding on 2's and - 4 ap is an average of about 9 damage before the mortal wound drilling kicks in I reckon you will get at least 1 -2 extras. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliomanes Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I just want a phalanx of Hoplites surrounding my Porphyrion, yelling laconic insults at hostile would-be chargers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosteldar Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Just wish that termite drill model wasn't close to $100! Ouch! But, will start figuring out whether I want to get it. The Secutarii model upgrade kits look cool! The Hoplites would be fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraken Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I just want a phalanx of Hoplites surrounding my Porphyrion, yelling laconic insults at hostile would-be chargers. So, this? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I'm going to Warhammer World next week and my wallet wasn't ready for this kind of Betrayal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trixie Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 So happy, so very very happy, this news makes my cog whir. I had gone into this thinking 'my first 40k army won't have transports...ok np' but now :):):):). Deffo putting some pennies aside for a termite for when I visit the specialist games open day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I just want a phalanx of Hoplites surrounding my Porphyrion, yelling laconic insults at hostile would-be chargers. Your organics are inefficient! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348201-forgeworld-delivers-peltasthoplitetermite-rules-for-40k/#findComment-5106164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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