m_r_parker Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 It’s Black Library Live, and Slaves to Darkness is available as a pre-release. I’ve picked up a copy and will try and flick through it between Seminars. I’ve taken some photos of the ToC and the internal artwork, they’re up in my B&C gallery and I’ll try to get them in the thread from my mobile. So you may see some edits to this first post. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Y'all are going to love this one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 Y'all are going to love this one. I have a nasty habit of skipping ahead to the artwork in the book, and the final two pieces towards the end are having me itch to read it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Y'all are going to love this one. I have a nasty habit of skipping ahead to the artwork in the book, and the final two pieces towards the end are having me itch to read it. I relate hard to that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Holy....those pics are amazing! Perturabo vs. Angron? Lorgar vs. Fulgrim? Count me in! Hopefully, this will be available at Warhammer Fest in Düsseldorf, as well! :O Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orwell84 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Thank you so much! Can't wait now until August Did they say when the ebook / hardcover will be released on the BL website? Never met this Zardu Layak chap before but he looks like one of the more... enlightened of Lorgar's rabble. So what does being 'Master of the Unspeaking' entail? Aside from a vow of silence. Also nice to see the largest gathering of primarchs in one book since this series began. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Thank you so much! Can't wait now until August Did they say when the ebook / hardcover will be released on the BL website? Never met this Zardu Layak chap before but he looks like one of the more... enlightened of Lorgar's rabble. So what does being 'Master of the Unspeaking' entail? Aside from a vow of silence. Also nice to see the largest gathering of primarchs in one book since this series began. Zardu Layak is from the FW Calth book, the Unspeaking is his chapter. That's good art. Good and ominous. The wounded Horus piece is gorgeous. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 So far I’m about 60 pages in, and it is exceptionally good. So far the narriative arc comes in from one legionary from each Legion; Malghourst, Zardu Layak, and Volk from the Iron Warriors. There’s obviously been a mis-step in the numbering of the series, as this book follows on from the battle for Beta-Garmin which Guy Haley is doing for Titandeath if memory recalls. Already you can sense the fractions within the traitor Legions, how some elements are remaining true to the Warmaster orders whilst others are off with their own agendas. Hopefully I’ll have enough time tonight and tomorrow to finish it off. Also it’ll probably be tonight or tomorrow until I can get the pictures into this thread. I can’t seem to quite get it to work from my mobile, I need my actual laptop. They are in my gallery if you want to investigate yourselves. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotillion Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 About 120 pages in and oh yes things are coming to a simmer very nicely. Almost want to slow down and savour whats to come a little. It's set chronologically after Titan Death. Guy said that novel was a late addition, commissioned out of sequence, when they realised Beta-Garmon couldn't occur as the back drop to Wolfsbane. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragon Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Would anyone care to share spoilers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 Would anyone care to share spoilers? We kinda need to read the book first... ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Haven't found Cuuuuuurrrrrze iiiiinnnn sssppaaaaaaaaaace yet then by the looks of it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 About 120 pages in and oh yes things are coming to a simmer very nicely. Almost want to slow down and savour whats to come a little. It's set chronologically after Titan Death. Guy said that novel was a late addition, commissioned out of sequence, when they realised Beta-Garmon couldn't occur as the back drop to Wolfsbane. And as I recall originally the plan was that BL would NOT cover Beta Garmon as it was going to only be detailed in the Forgeworld/Specialist Game "Black Book" for the new Adeptus Titanicus game. Clearly at some point they changed their mind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSwordmaster Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Can't wait to read this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.crusader Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I'm dying to see the second part of cover artwork. Can any lucky owner share a picture, please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Got my copy. Going in tonight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted June 16, 2018 Author Share Posted June 16, 2018 I'm dying to see the second part of cover artwork. Can any lucky owner share a picture, please? :rolleyes: If you’re talking about the artwork behind the blurb, then there’s not much there. I took a pic and put it in my gallery, it’s mainly lightning. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 This looks absolutely awesome. Having to wait for the general release is going to be excruciating. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.crusader Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Thanks, m_r_parker! Really appreciate it! Expected a bit more but its ok) Anyway, the full artwork seems to be really nice piece of artwork :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotillion Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 The bottom section of the reverse cover is troop columns marching, in an echo of the Primarchs book Ullanor art according to Neil. The Heralds of the Siege cover they showed in the Coming Soon seminar harks back to that art too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 About 120 pages in and oh yes things are coming to a simmer very nicely. Almost want to slow down and savour whats to come a little. It's set chronologically after Titan Death. Guy said that novel was a late addition, commissioned out of sequence, when they realised Beta-Garmon couldn't occur as the back drop to Wolfsbane. And as I recall originally the plan was that BL would NOT cover Beta Garmon as it was going to only be detailed in the Forgeworld/Specialist Game "Black Book" for the new Adeptus Titanicus game. Clearly at some point they changed their mind. It's good that BL does all the major events, even if FW does them also, because the BL heresy series will be around a lot longer and in much more available fashion than the FW books alas. We benefit from both sides too, making it a shame that there might not be a FW Titandeath Book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 So excited for this. Really happy to hear that French put in Zardu Layak, and that Argonis is making a return. This promises to be a treat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5106989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I thought that overall, Praetorian of Dorn was more than solid (with a few limited flaws). So I expect this to be as good or even better. French's prose is quite excellent IMO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5107028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeLeto69 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 About 120 pages in and oh yes things are coming to a simmer very nicely. Almost want to slow down and savour whats to come a little. It's set chronologically after Titan Death. Guy said that novel was a late addition, commissioned out of sequence, when they realised Beta-Garmon couldn't occur as the back drop to Wolfsbane. And as I recall originally the plan was that BL would NOT cover Beta Garmon as it was going to only be detailed in the Forgeworld/Specialist Game "Black Book" for the new Adeptus Titanicus game. Clearly at some point they changed their mind. It's good that BL does all the major events, even if FW does them also, because the BL heresy series will be around a lot longer and in much more available fashion than the FW books alas. We benefit from both sides too, making it a shame that there might not be a FW Titandeath Book. Totally agree. I remember a lot of disappointment when folks heard Titan Death / Beta Garmon was not getting the BL treatment. Maybe GW/FW/BL teams listened and reconsidered? Also have to wonder whether Alan Bligh's passing impacted too? The EXCELLENT coverage on Twitter from Trackofwords also indicated that one seminar had the authors (specifically Abnett) discussing the change in direction BL have taken with HH series "having listened to fans" and moved away from a "mosaic story approach" to more or a "chronological series" for the final arc (ish). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5107185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 ....and, it's finished, and what a ride it was too. Let me say right now, I'm not doing spoilers for this book at all. Period. It's worth the wait to read it yourself without prior knowledge of events that may happen. John French has written a great novel here, and stitched together a few arcs to get the series where it needed to get to: marshalling the forces of the Warmaster for the final march to Terra. The book itself revolves around three story threads and factions: the Sons of Horus; Perturabo; and Lorgar. If you want a theme that flows through the novel, it's the question of what power is in relation to Chaos. The name itself "Slaves to Darkness" fits well with this question. Who holds the true power, those that submit or those who fight against it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348222-hh-51-slaves-to-darkness/#findComment-5107233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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