Daimhin Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 ++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [3000pts] ++ + HQ + Legion Champion [150pts]: Artificer Armour, Boarding Shield, Bolt Pistol, Jump Pack, Phoenix Spear, Sonic Shrieker . Consul: Champion, Legion Praetor, Legion [225pts]: Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Jump Pack, Mastercraft a Single Weapon, Paragon Blade, Power Fist, Sonic Shrieker + Elites + Apothecarion Detachment [150pts] . Apothecary, Legion: Jump Pack, Power Armour, Power Sword . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . Apothecary, Legion: Jump Pack, Power Armour, Power Sword Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [440pts] . Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Extra Armour . . Dreadnought Chainfist: Graviton Gun . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun . Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Extra Armour . . Dreadnought Chainfist: Graviton Gun . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Graviton Gun Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion [110pts] . Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion: Laser Destroyer Array . Rapier Weapons Battery, Legion: Laser Destroyer Array Veteran Tactical Squad, Legion [425pts]: Melta Bombs . Veteran Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Thunder Hammer . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . Veteran Space Marines w/ Special or Heavy Weapon, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Meltagun, Vexilla, Legion . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Veteran Space Marines w/ Special or Heavy Weapon, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Meltagun . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Veteran Space Marines, Legion: Bolt Pistol . . Combi-weapon: Combi-weapon: Meltagun . . Power Weapon: Power Sword + Troops + Assault Squad, Legion [420pts]: 14x Assault Space Marines, Legion . Additional Wargear: Combat Shields, Melta Bombs . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Assault Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Pair of Lightning Claws Assault Squad, Legion [415pts]: 14x Assault Space Marines, Legion . Additional Wargear: Combat Shields, Melta Bombs . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Assault Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Phoenix Spear + Fast Attack + Anvillus Pattern Dreadclaw Drop Pod [115pts]: Frag Assault Launchers Javelin Attack Speeder Squadron, Legion [170pts] . Javelin Attack Speeder, Legion: 2x Hunter-killer Missile, Multi-melta, Twin-linked Lascannon . Javelin Attack Speeder, Legion: 2x Hunter-killer Missile, Multi-melta, Twin-linked Lascannon Primaris-Lightning Strike Fighter [250pts]: Battle Servitor Control, Ground-tracking Auguries, 2x Kraken Penetrator Heavy missile, Twin-linked Autocannon, Twin-linked Lascannon + Heavy Support + Vindicator Siege Tank Squadron, Legion [130pts] . Vindicator Tank, Legion: Combi-Bolter, Laser Destroyer Array + Allegiance + Legion and Allegiance: III: Emperor's Children, Loyalist Rite of War: The Maru Skara ++ Total: [3000pts] ++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted June 17, 2018 Author Share Posted June 17, 2018 Idea is deploy the 2 assault squads and 3 laser destroyers initially. Melta-vets drop in T1 and remove the biggest threat. Lightning, 2 contemptors and 2 javelins arrive outflanking T2. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5107104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDizzle Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I like the general premise of this list, and I'm a big fan of the fact you're filling all your troops slots with assault marines; they definitely play to the strengths of the Maru Skara (and the Emperor's Children in general). My main concern would be the 540 points veterans in an anvillus. They'll certainly be capable of dishing out a lot of damage, but are still a 10-man squad of marines with 3+ saves at the end of the day. Not to mention, your opponent's biggest threat could quite easily be a transport housing terminators or similar (suzerains etc...), at which point the power swords are a waste of points. In practice, you might find it works well, but I fear it could also crumble against certain opponents. Regarding the rest of the army, dual combat contemptors sounds good, the apothecaries are a must, and the Primaris is always a decent choice. Someone, else with more experience, might have better input, but where is the champion going? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5108690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted June 20, 2018 Author Share Posted June 20, 2018 I agree the Veterans are an issue... the 100pts of power weapons is entirely a waste of points! However, I took the same squad in a different list at the LGT and they were my MVP by a long way (not saying much - my army was terrible!) Game 1 they reduced The Tormentor to 1HP, Game 2 they destroyed a Whirlwind t1 and followed up with a rhino t2 before they got Phosphexed to death! Game 3 they took out a Knight Seneschal as the 1st thing that happened in the whole game... My reasoning for including them is that I think Maru Skara is all about applying constant pressure to your opponent and not giving him a second's respite. This squad should give him a real headache in his own lines while 30+ assault troops close on him at increased speed. Legion Champion will be in one assault squad, Praetor in the other. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5109032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDizzle Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 My bad, I saw boarding shield and suddenly the words jump pack became invisible! Definitely agree about the constant pressure though. I guess you could ditch the swords for axes, even if you lose your initiative bonus. I would be tempted to swap the veterans out for terminators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5109469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 My bad, I saw boarding shield and suddenly the words jump pack became invisible! Definitely agree about the constant pressure though. I guess you could ditch the swords for axes, even if you lose your initiative bonus. I would be tempted to swap the veterans out for terminators. Actually they are armed with a mix of swords and axes (and one maul!) but I can't remember how many of each! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5109688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I agree about the vets... Why not use a 5 man termie squad instead? They can take combi melta and are going to be more resilient whilst also offering the option for chainfists and the anvilus becomes dedicated. You’ll also save about 200 points for another later vindi, javs etc... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5110383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted June 23, 2018 Author Share Posted June 23, 2018 I've tried the 5-man terminator squad. Has nothing like the potency for the alpha strike. Sure you can keep it in the pod until t2 then it's better than the vets, but the vets can trash a superheavy before it even gets to fire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5111524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fangbanger Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Fair enough, your experience trumps my theory! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5113036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuka06 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I have a similar idea for a Maru Skara list. Mine is hypothetical right now, so maybe let me bounce some ideas off of you and you see if something strikes a chord. I had a kitted out Praetor for my main assault squad. Then I saw that Eidolon with a jump pack cost the same. Are the Auto canons on the Lightning Strike Fighter really worth it? I though of him as a Spartan and Land Raider opener and Auto Canons don't do anything for that. If you give the Vindicator Machine Spirits, you can drive the full 12" and still fire the demolisher canon. Depends on if you want focused anti tank fire power or a possible squad deleter. Regular Landspeeders can get grav guns as an additional weapon. 4 of those with HB and grav guns outflanking can glance a lot of vehicles to death. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5124786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDizzle Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 One more thing to note... With the recent FAQ, your Champion can now take a Paragon Blade for the same cost as the Phoenix Spear. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5125173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimhin Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 I have a similar idea for a Maru Skara list. Mine is hypothetical right now, so maybe let me bounce some ideas off of you and you see if something strikes a chord. I had a kitted out Praetor for my main assault squad. Then I saw that Eidolon with a jump pack cost the same. Are the Auto canons on the Lightning Strike Fighter really worth it? I though of him as a Spartan and Land Raider opener and Auto Canons don't do anything for that. If you give the Vindicator Machine Spirits, you can drive the full 12" and still fire the demolisher canon. Depends on if you want focused anti tank fire power or a possible squad deleter. Regular Landspeeders can get grav guns as an additional weapon. 4 of those with HB and grav guns outflanking can glance a lot of vehicles to death. I have since amended this list, but my thoughts remain consistent, so I can give you my reasonings. Eidolon - I run Loyalist (no idea why... but I do!) so not an option for me. Autocannons on Lightning - After the initial can-opening, I like to use my Lightning as air cover against other fliers, or for taking out lighter tanks (rear/ side armour) Vindicator - Laser Destroyer Array, so I don't want it moving at all tbh! Land Speeders - I have 5, they just aren't in this list! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5126139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunna Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 FAQ means no boarding shield and phoenix spear as this is a two handed weapon which you can no longer have with the shield. You could run the Spear as a Paragon Blade if you don’t want to remodel the miniature. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5128453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramarinebo Posted August 15, 2018 Share Posted August 15, 2018 This is a great list man, personally I really like the melta intensity of those veterans but agree that you won't be needing the power swords. The Assault marines fulfil that role. With the spare points you might be able to add another vindicator, I think they can be fielded in squadrons these days. I'd be a little concerned if you came up against a flyer saturated list, particularly fire raptors, one lightning wouldn't withstand. In saying this, you might just be numerous enough on the ground to swarm the objectives by turn 5-6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/348241-3000pts-emperors-children-maru-skara/#findComment-5145915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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